Do I have any chance?

[Flan.]

flan

[Vicky]

Definitely you do have a chance, flan, and don't hesitate starting to look for it straight away. You're not going to burden your future wife with your 4 kids, right? You may have another by the way with the new wife, and the way you characterize yourself ladies might find pretty promising.

[liam]

#### mate, i'm 30, with no kids, i'm way handsome, cool and charming. i've got lots of friends, girls tend to love me and i know a couple of tricks that sexually turn the ladies into purring kittens. plus i'm modest.........but still i'm not too succesful in the russian dating game http://datingtalk.info/non-cgi/emoticons/sad.gif , so sorry mate the answer is no http://datingtalk.info/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif http://datingtalk.info/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif http://datingtalk.info/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif http://datingtalk.info/non-cgi/emoticons/cool.gif liam

[Vicky]

Don't listen to liam, Flan http://datingtalk.info/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif His only love is ..emmm.. forgot the name... Flossy? http://datingtalk.info/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

Everybody has a chance. Maybe some woman who can't have children would be glad to be with you and spend her life taking care of you and your children too. Don't lose hope. You must belive.

[Vicky]

You'd better listen to girls, Flan http://datingtalk.info/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

[Flan.]

Dear Vicky and liam,

Thank you for your answers.

But Liam , I sure you have some exceptional good qualities .
And you are still unsuccesful in finding a russian lady?
There must be a logical explanation for it for it . Don 't you think?
Are all this ladies too demaning ? If you have problems with finding ,who else is going to succeed ?
Or maybe vicky has a point.

Thanks again .

Flan.

[markmiwurdz]

Of course you do , you have every chance. Go for it

[markmiwurdz]

Oh by the way Flan, Im in a similar position to you. I have 3 kids divorced and Im 38. My kids stay with me at the weekends. Im also financially secure. I too am very interested in meeting a Russian and hopefully one thats wants children. I think we should team up for a visit to St.Petersburg. http://datingtalk.info/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

Good Luck

[Vicky]

Even if you don't find a wife there, you can at least help me hunting scammers http://datingtalk.info/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif Everybody interested is invited as well (hint, liam http://datingtalk.info/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif )

[katya]

</span><span =''>
Hi.
Yes , all have chance , but your is little. It tell true.
And problems not at that , that you have 4 children , problems is in that you want at 45 years old find woman without children , before 36.
If she is 36 and she haven

[Vicky]

</span>[QUOTE= (katya @ Mar. 16 2003,10:31)]but

[Serge]

</span>[QUOTE= (Vicky @ Mar. 16 2003,11:28)]</span>[QUOTE= (katya @ Mar. 16 2003,10:31)]but

[Vicky]

Don't know about small cities, but as i said, in bid cities like Moscow or St.Petersburg, there are lots of both types - single mothers and women with no children (and they are not ill or silly). Single mothers are mostly those who got married being pretty young (and silly), then found out the husband was not the ideal prince. Those who do not have kids so far were either looking for someone they wanted to have kids with or didn't have time for them or were not financially prepared. Women can have kids at 40, so it's not a big problem if treatment conditions are good.
If i were at your place, Serge, having kids with the ex-wife, i probably wouldn't look for another woman with children, or if you two decide you want to have a kid of your own, you can always have it.
Women who are placing profiles at dating sites do not always have children, so if you take an attentive look (and that's for Flan) you might find what you need.

[Serge]

</span>If i were at your place, Serge, having kids with the ex-wife, i probably wouldn't look for another woman with children,<span =''>
I was wondering why you say this. Do you think that the X will complicate things? Frankly we see bigfoot more often than we see her http://datingtalk.info/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

[Serge]

</span></span>If i were at your place, Serge, having kids with the ex-wife, i probably wouldn't look for another woman with children,<span =''>
I was wondering why you say this. Do you think that the X will complicate things? Frankly we see bigfoot more often than we see her http://datingtalk.info/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif<span =''>
That is to say, would a Russian woman resent there being an EX? EX's are pretty common over here.

[Vicky]

Misunderstanding http://datingtalk.info/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif I might have used the wrong words http://datingtalk.info/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif No, the problem is not with ex's, just that you already have kids, that's it.

[katya]

</span>Not at all, i've got plenty of examples, and those i know are far from being stupid http://datingtalk.info/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif<span =''>
Vicky.
Woman can have 2 or 3 highest educate , but it isn

[katya]

</span><span =''>
Serge , you can marry at any woman. As with child , as without. Simply - you are reliable, you wasn

[Vicky]

</span></span>[QUOTE= (Vicky @ Mar. 16 2003,11:28)]Not at all, i've got plenty of examples, and those i know are far from being stupid http://datingtalk.info/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif<span =''>
Vicky.
Woman can

[liam]

g'day vicky and katya, ahhhhhhhhhh you've solved my eternal riddle!!!!!!!, my mum and dad were obviously alcoholics and drug addicts http://datingtalk.info/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif . but seriously the only real danger with women having children later in life is when women are over 40 when the chance of the baby developing Down's Syndrome increases 10 fold, pre-natal scans can detect it at 2/3 weeks cos its a chromosonal abnormality. i spend a ridiculous amount of time each week looking after children with complex pathologies, serious behaviour concerns, and the sad fact is that each year more and more children are being born with or developing before the age of 2 real complex austism spectrum disorder characteristics. despite the u.s.a spending literally millions and millions of dollars each year in research there is no clear or easy answer to why its happening. its crosses all cultures, socio-economic status, everything. and has nothing to do with age.
katya's 'idealism' should be admired because without such thinking the worlds gonna be taken over by apathy, but at the same time vicky is totally right in saying that its far far better to make sure you are secure and able to provide for a child, emotional, physically and financially. i also work part-time as a ''minder' for social-workers and have lost count of the times when i'm left holding a badly abused little baby in my arms simply because there parents were too young and stupid, poor and emotional siily-in-the-head to realise that the child they brought into this world was'nt there as a 'sex-toy' or a surrogate 'punching-bag'. cheers laim.

ps, don't get angry katya, i'm definately not saying all young parents are that shocking. http://datingtalk.info/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

[Serge]

</span><span =''>
I have to agree with Liam. I think that bearing children at the age of 40 is not a good idea. My mother inlaw had twins at this age and both of them are a little autistic but the interesting thing is that they are brilliant too http://datingtalk.info/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif They are good kids (13 years) just a little off.

Vicky is right in wanting to wait to have children. Everyone get tied up in the idea of family and kids and then they find out way too late that the reality is not always pleasant. The fact is that having a child can be really stressfull under the best of circumstances. Add to this post partum depression, lack of maturity, financial worries maybe lack of support and things can get pretty tough.

Liam I think that going to Russia is the best way of meeting Russian gals. This is my plan a well. I was wondering if you could do something for me on the way over? I'll send you my Bio.....about 30,000 of them. If you could pitch them out of the plane somewhere over central Russia it would be appriciated http://datingtalk.info/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

[777]

</span></span><span =''><span =''>
So, Vicky, Katya, could one generalize?: http://datingtalk.info/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

Katya represents the "classical" Russian woman type searching of getting man and family in young years, likes to live together with parents or inlaws?

Vicky represents the "modern", western-woman-like Russian woman, that especially is living in Moscow and STP, preferably apart from parents, looking for a man in her 30ies. As to family with children: maybe or maybe not, it doesn't matter, both possibilities could happen?

[liam]

definately serge, though a better idea might be for us to simply rock up to vickies house together, give her the fright of a lifetime and let her introduce us to all these foxy students she teaches (i think vicky's a teacher?), mind you after your increasingly shocking behaviour on this forum you she might not trust you around the russian girls http://datingtalk.info/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif . but don't worry, i've got a sneaky feeling i'm gonna get mobbed by beautiful girls the second i get of the plane ( looking like george cloony is a curse that i'm slowly learning to live with http://datingtalk.info/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif http://datingtalk.info/non-cgi/emoticons/cool.gif ), i can only choose one (or perhaps two if i'm dodgy), so they'll be plenty of heart-broken girls i can send your way!!!!!!!!!!!!!. cheers, liam

[liam]

g'day 777, a little tip my german friend.
One should only refer to ones-self as 'one' if one is a member of the British Royal Family. cheers, liam

ps or should i say the half german/half greek british royal family http://datingtalk.info/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif http://datingtalk.info/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif http://datingtalk.info/non-cgi/emoticons/cool.gif http://datingtalk.info/non-cgi/emoticons/rock.gif

[Vicky]

</span></span></span>[QUOTE= (Katya @ Mar. 17 2003,11:24)]<span =''><span =''>
So, Vicky, Katya, could one generalize?: http://datingtalk.info/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

Katya represents the "classical" Russian woman type searching of getting man and family in young years, likes to live together with parents or inlaws?

Vicky represents the "modern", western-woman-like Russian woman, that especially is living in Moscow and STP, preferably apart from parents, looking for a man in her 30ies.

[Serge]

</span>if you are for young students, i can easily arrange this http://datingtalk.info/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif<span =''>
Vicky... I see a brite future for you. You should have your own site...Madam Vicky's introduction service http://datingtalk.info/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif

[Vicky]

Would you like to be the first client, sir? http://datingtalk.info/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif

[katya]

</span>One of them got married at 17, divorced and is a single mother with a 12-year old child, another is unmarried or divorced woman with no kids due to her wish to provide her future life for her children first.<span =''>
Vicky.
From this 2 woman I

Unless you look like Igor, you have as good a chance as anyone.