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Waradmiral
09-17-2002, 04:20 PM
Why do women only send 1 e-mail (if they reply to a 1st message from a man) and never strive to keep contact?

I've sent many messages, but the contact seems to last only the one message. Do Russian & Ukrainian women really think one message is sufficient for an American to travel to meet her? Isn't it time to grow up & realize that it takes many messages by BOTH e-mail AND POST MAIL LETTERS to establish & develop a correspondence, and ONLY THEN will an Amewrican travel the great distance to meet her in person? Come on ladies, get REAL and GET serious or just remove your photos & descriptions to make way for the serious & sincere women who really want to meet a man!

imported_admin
09-17-2002, 04:51 PM
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I do not think that all Russian & Ukrainian women send only one letter. I know several girls which do correspondence with man during several months. Write here somebody about your correspondence.
About Russian postal mail, letters through it go very slowly, I do not advise to use it.

09-17-2002, 11:11 PM
SEEMS TO ME THE CHARLEY HAS A PROBLEM, WHAT TYPE OF LETTERS ARE YOU WRITTING, I DO NOT HAEV ANY PROBLEM IN GETING SEVERAL LETTERS FROM THE LADIES, I AM AN AMERICAN MEN HAVE MEET SEVERAL AND I FOUND THAT ONE,
AND I WILL BE MARRIED IN 60 DAYS. CHARLIE POLISH YOUR WRITTING SKILLS AND BE HONEST, SEND SERIOUS REPLIES AND YOU WILL GET ANSWERS. DO NOT GIVE UP. YOU WON'T
BE SORRY, I MADE FIVE TRIPS TO RUSSIA AND UKRAINE BEFORE I FOUND MY MATE. BE READY TO SPEND SOME MONEY. SOME MEN SPEND MORE ON A CAR THAN FINDING A GOOD WIFE.

09-20-2002, 06:10 AM
I do agree with him.

I don`t understand, why many women answer just one time. I think I can write in interesting style and I`m waiting for an answer, but then often nothing happens and I ask myself why, but there are many possible reasons: The girl has another boyfriend. She has no money. Or other problems. I have longer conversation with some women, but with many it`s a very slow-going contact and I`m loosing interest, when there is no communication.

09-20-2002, 09:33 AM
I think that it depends on both persons: if I like a man, I will e-mail, and if he likes me, he will send me a letter. I have benn exchanging messages with my friend for 3 months before he came, and actually, it is like meeting a person 'in person': it often happens that in real life you would not like to see a man (or a woman) more than once. Keep trying and do not be afrais to spend money: no pin - no gain. Anyway, I wish you good luck.

09-20-2002, 11:12 PM
seems to me that if the guy is American and he is only getting 1 reply, he is giving out the wrong impression in his letters. i don't think the ladies on these sites are just looking for pen-pals or some casual dating but are more interested in a long-term relationship.
But at least he is luckier than me in getting a reply [maybe because he is Caucasian]. what i do know is that the ladies are very interested in serious-minded guys from the States. seems the guys in their countries are not very responsible or family minded.

09-21-2002, 06:31 PM
</span>Why do women only send 1 e-mail (if they reply to a 1st message from a man) and never strive to keep contact?

I've sent many messages, but the contact seems to last only the one message. Do Russian & Ukrainian women really think one message is sufficient for an American to travel to meet her? Isn't it time to grow up & realize that it takes many messages by BOTH e-mail AND POST MAIL LETTERS to establish & develop a correspondence, and ONLY THEN will an Amewrican travel the great distance to meet her in person? Come on ladies, get REAL and GET serious or just remove your photos & descriptions to make way for the serious & sincere women who really want to meet a man!<span =''>
I am wery sorry , but why you say,

09-22-2002, 03:59 AM
Different replies for one problem, that proves that every person is different. However, there are 3 Major problems:
1. LANGUAGE. Two options. 1. The Lady speaks a language or that's what she thinks. A message is missunderstood and the contact breaks. (Misunderstanding are very common with divorced women with children over 17 years old)
2. The Lady pretends to speak English, but she does not.
She Uses a translator who has a dendency to 'copy' his replies (most do). You know exactly what is going on because the content of the messages are the same. I received many messages that were not addressed to me, and had nothing to do with me. One common used sentence is "I want to love and to be loved" and is included in every reply.
3. Many lady's use software that translate English to Russian and visa versa. The translations are although better than nothing, very bad.

EXPECTATIONS: Some man are studid (total failures in their own country, rejected because their luck of understanding for women), all they want to do is "buy" wife. They do not really care if she is from Russia, Thailand, or the Philippines as long as she is from a country with "poor" living conditions and/or life expectations. It is easy to impress a Russian Lady that earns as a professional $100/ month, when you earn $200/day. Love has nothing to do with money.

3. ADVISE: Advise comes (originates) mainly from one source, the translators. They claim to be "experienced" but their are not. Each person should use his/her own initiative, his/her own logic and judgment, try to be reasonable, try to understand. Life was not meant to be easy. If your partner is not prepare to share your pain, than he/she is not your partner.
That's what "Partnership" or "marriage" is all about, sharing good times and bad times.
Remember: For every man there is a women and for every women, there is a man. Keep looking.

That's my opinion. In a few words

09-22-2002, 04:28 AM
To all of you dummies. The best way to get to Russian / Ukrainian girl's heart is to learn their language at least a bit.

I am so impressed as why so many Americans want Russian / Ukrainian women. I can see European men doing that. They are closer in cultural traits than the Americans. Is it because the inability to get women here forces men of all ages to "buy" a woman like in the dark ages? They are so impressed with our lifestyle that agree to be sold into bondage for a better life. How many of the men who married Russian women can be sure that they love you? Do you know that after a while, once she's here and becomes a legal reseident, she can tell you to fuck off and bring her own boyfried. Make sure she's in love with you first and that takes time.
Do your homework, and don't be afraid - go there by yourself there are many places to meet women there, even on the streets ,so don't be pussies and go for it!!!!!!

I love Russian women, and I've done so for many years, but I can't marry them. Everytime I go there I like another one.

katya
09-22-2002, 07:25 AM
</span>[QUOTE= (Guest @ Sep. 22 2002,07:28)]To all of you dummies. The best way to get to Russian / Ukrainian girl's heart is to learn their language at least a bit.

I am so impressed as why so many Americans want Russian / Ukrainian women. I can see

benniej
11-23-2002, 02:54 AM
i wrote 65 letters to one woman and we today still write back and forth even though she went back w/ her husband we are very good friends and plan on meeting in mexico this summer so i can meet her husband i live i usa i look at as i have helped and made a new freind for life-----------------------------------------------benniej http://datingtalk.info/non-cgi/emoticons/rock.gif

olivertwist
11-24-2002, 03:15 AM
Hello everyone

I agree to all people who is man or russian&ukranian woman.
Hey people that problem is not solved in world.
Man and Woman's understanding each other.Also you,They try to start contact with future mate.
Is it easy?
I think no.
Cause in your own language too.
Let we little bit thinking.
To start a contact with a Lady .
How many barrier we have ? Many!!!!
Language , Misunderstanding , wrong tricks ,Woman&Man conflict,wants&unwants , Must be far away from other ..ooooooooo so many...just some here.
And how must be philosopy I dont know...
But still i am trying..
just my some minds.

With my best wishes

Jon
11-24-2002, 09:32 AM
</span>[QUOTE= (olivertwist @ Nov. 24 2002,06:15)]Hello everyone

I agree to all people who is man or russian&ukranian woman.
Hey people that problem is not solved in world.
Man and Woman's understanding each other.Also you,They try to start contact with future mate.
Is it easy?
I think no.
Cause in your own language too.
Let we little bit thinking.
To start a contact with a Lady .
How many barrier we have ? Many!!!!
Language , Misunderstanding , wrong tricks ,Woman&Man conflict,wants&unwants , Must be far away from other ..ooooooooo so many...just some here.
And how must be philosopy

olivertwist
11-24-2002, 09:50 AM
Hello

Jon wrote ;
P.S. I hope my quote from CAN was correct. See I too had a little difficulty with the language barrier and tried to read my impressions into his words....just think how difficult it is when you are writing a woman from another country.

Jon
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Yes Jon i agree you too.
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But if some Turkish or Deustch spoken Topic or Letters in here i will see your language barriers of yourself to read your answers to me.! Hehehehe just Joke

Also i am very thank you to your support my minds.

Can

Jon
11-24-2002, 11:19 AM
</span>[QUOTE= (olivertwist @ Nov. 24 2002,12:50)]Hello

Jon wrote ;
P.S.

katya
11-24-2002, 08:34 PM
Boys.. what is the problem ? I wasn

Jon
11-24-2002, 10:13 PM
</span>[QUOTE= (katya @ Nov. 24 2002,23:34)]Boys.. what is the problem ?

katya
11-24-2002, 10:24 PM
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becouse I was want to tell with people from another countries http://datingtalk.info/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif))))
very simply http://datingtalk.info/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

Vicky
11-24-2002, 10:29 PM
I think the matter or getting one or more replies does not depend on the language barrier, well, a little bit maybe.
My advice is - when you write to a woman try to be original. I know that when you write to several trying to find the one it's not easy to sound amusing or inventive, the letter is a formality where you describe yourself and specify what you're looking for. But girls get dozens of similar letters every day and it also becomes a routine thing. Imagine if she gets 10 letters a day with something like "hi, i'm from...., i'm... years old, i'm looking for long-term relationships" and so forth. It might become boring a bit, answering them, and how a girl should decide how this one differs from another? By answering ALL letters? Be merciful http://datingtalk.info/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif
So, try to write something that will be pretty simple so that even a girl with a minimum knowledge of language will understand, but something that will attract her. Something like "your dad must be an astronomer, otherwise where did you get those stars that are shining in your eyes"


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Jon
11-24-2002, 10:42 PM
Vicky,

You wrote:

Something like: "your dad must be an astronomer, otherwise where did you get those stars that are shining in your eyes"

Dear friend,

The sun coming through my window this morning was possible because I had seen such beauty. I slept last night with the thought of you upon my lips.

Each time I turned in bed I dreamed of what words I could say to such a woman.

Each hour I spent trying to think of a single word that I could say that would express my wish to know you. Each sentence was nearly impossible for to write because words could not express what I felt when I first gazed upon your picture.

It was your beauty that inspired me to risk a chance that you would read my letter. I prayed that you would not think me bold, but know that I only speak of possible friendship.

I chance that maybe someday you could possibly speak to me. That maybe I could hear your voice. I do not know how such beauty could have touched me as you have. Maybe it was our destiny to meet in such a manner?

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How's that?

Jon

katya
11-24-2002, 10:45 PM
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first letter?
I'll think , that you are mad. http://datingtalk.info/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif
sorry for true http://datingtalk.info/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif
but a lot of young silly girls will be very pleasure to see it http://datingtalk.info/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

Jon
11-24-2002, 10:51 PM
</span>[quote=Jon,Nov. 25 2002,01:42]
first letter?
I'll think , that you are mad. http://datingtalk.info/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif
sorry for true http://datingtalk.info/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif
but

Vicky
11-24-2002, 11:02 PM
Jon,

I would love to see this as the first letter http://datingtalk.info/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif It wouldn't tell me of how serious the man is or what he expects from me or our relationships, but I definitely would be interested. I'm sick and tired of trivial things, and it's not easy to get me interested in a person. By the way, didn't I tell here that out of all features of a man his mind is what I cherish the most? I'm not looking for a handsome or rich guy, though looks of course play the role, but in some dumb horoscope I read that females of my zodiac sign are looking for someone who they may put on a pedestal and walk around looking at him in admiration http://datingtalk.info/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif I definitely need someone who is more than me in every sense http://datingtalk.info/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif Hopefully I'm not doomed to stay single http://datingtalk.info/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif

Jon
11-24-2002, 11:10 PM
</span>[QUOTE= (Vicky @ Nov. 25 2002,02:02)]Jon,

I would love to see this as the first letter http://datingtalk.info/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif It wouldn't tell me of how serious the man is or what he expects from me or our relationships, but I definitely would be interested. I'm sick and tired of trivial things, and it's not easy to get me interested in a person. By the way, didn't I tell here that out of all features of a man his mind is what I cherish

Tom
11-24-2002, 11:17 PM
</span>[QUOTE= (Jon @ Nov. 25 2002,02:10)]No you are not doomed!!!

I said before that you have all the qualities men seek.

Vicky
11-24-2002, 11:24 PM
Lovely words, Jon http://datingtalk.info/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

And right to the point http://datingtalk.info/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif I adore sleeping. Not because I'm lazy and just can't get up and start working, but because I love watching dreams http://datingtalk.info/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif I watch them every night, they are always colorful and interesting, most of them are adventurous, though white night mares do visit too. But it's a good chance to think later in the morning and ask myself a question - what's there in your mind, Vicky, that you even dream of it?
Oh by the way what's your attitude to dreams?

Xutesute
11-25-2002, 03:04 PM
Hi Waradmiral.

Another reason may be that the notion of finding romance on-line is part fantasy and when it comes down to starting a "real" relationship they might get scared.

Also many people crave attention and receiveing letters from someone showing interest makes a person feel wanted even though they don't have any intention of following through.

O.K. that was two reasons. http://datingtalk.info/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif

Craig.

katya
11-25-2002, 08:12 PM
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all world is exit only becouse there is romanticists in it.
people , who aren't practical persons. and , look , all , about whot people was dreaming , they do in life .
only not always all can be doing.
and , if anybody so need in care , is there hard to give he some attation ?
let he be happy http://datingtalk.info/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

Xutesute
11-25-2002, 08:27 PM
Everybody needs to feel wanted, some more than others.

I too have the need to feel wanted Katya. It's certainly not a bad thing as long as no one gets hurt in the process.

I was suggesting that the girl(s) may have been using Waradmiral to stroke her ego(s.) There may be one of 100 reasons they don't write back but he is left feeling like he didn't do something right.

Craig.

katya
11-25-2002, 08:41 PM
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you know. We are studying in university on psychology. that is man are angree , it means , that he need in care , attation , praise - be generally recognized.
and everybody need in it.
and , you know , from what it is go ? from that man need in self-esteem. and if another recognize he , he can do it himself too . and if everybody thinking that he is zerro , he making angree and trying to do all, that people don't think so.
one Russian man was tell * beauty will save the world , but only if she is good *
but now people foret second part of this words , and thinking , that beauty will be enought.

Xutesute
11-25-2002, 09:05 PM
Keep it up Katya. I may become smart someday from reading your words. Very well said!

Craig.

Vicky
11-25-2002, 10:34 PM
To my shame I forgot that second half either.

among by friends we usually say "yea, beauty will save the world... providing it's given time and there's still somebody to be saved" http://datingtalk.info/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

olivertwist
11-26-2002, 01:08 AM
Hello Jon

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Hehehehe...Hmmmm
was bevorzugen Sie gegen&uuml;ber mir Gespr&auml;ch mit Ihnen in, welcher Sprache? Ja Klar?
Sie sehen wie ein starker Mann aus
Und..
Jon , arkada&#351; sen se&ccedil; hangi dilde konu&#351;al&#305;m l&uuml;tfen.
Sevdim seni iyi adama benziyorsun!! http://datingtalk.info/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

Thank you very much to answering me mf..

Can

Jon
11-26-2002, 05:40 PM
</span>Hello Jon

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Hehehehe...Hmmmm
was bevorzugen Sie gegen&uuml;ber mir Gespr&auml;ch mit Ihnen in, welcher Sprache? Ja Klar?
Sie sehen wie ein starker Mann aus
Und..
Jon , arkada&#351; sen se&ccedil; hangi dilde konu&#351;al&#305;m l&uuml;tfen.
Sevdim seni iyi adama benziyorsun!! http://datingtalk.info/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

Thank you very much to answering me mf..

Can<span =''>
engels..DA?

Jon