I think I've got a scammer!

[bat_guano]

OK, people, I think I've found me a scammer. Her name is Nadya. Her first letter is a form letter (of course...that's expected from anyone), but it mentions sultryness, sexiness and lots of passion.

She originally posted on Free Russian Dating with a picture that showed her breast and the second picture showed thigh all the way up to her hip. She is 26 years old wanting someone 30-55 years old. I figured her for a scammer and thought I'd have some fun, so I wrote her and gave her nothing more than my Yahoo! email address. Well, I forgot about her and am writing someone really nice...I think (and hope).

So today I get the form letter with three pictures attached. Along with the suggestive parts of the email, there is one "normal" picture and 2 pictures showing her breasts.

So I'm in the mood for some fun. Let's play a game called "Let's Play With The Scammer". Anyone game?

Hehehehehe!!! http://datingtalk.info/non-cgi/emoticons/laugh.gif http://datingtalk.info/non-cgi/emoticons/laugh.gif http://datingtalk.info/non-cgi/emoticons/laugh.gif

[MartinUK]

Bat,
Don't tell me, she is from Kremenchug, Ukraine. She's been around the circuit a while, even posting pics of Jennifer Lopez, I think it was a year or 2 ago I corresponded with her very briefly, all 'canned' letters and a guy has just blacklisted her on www.womenrussia.com/blacklist.htm

[bat_guano]

Martin,
I don't think so...but may be. You can check out her pics at:

http://www.geocities.com/bat_guano/nadia.html

Please check her out, and if you'd like I can put her first letter here.

But if she IS a scammer...we can have some fun!!!

[liam]

Nadya's obviously perfect wife material http://datingtalk.info/non-cgi/emoticons/cool.gif , while she's definately a 'babe' you've only got to shake your head in disbelief if there are any men out here who would believe for a single second that what she really wants his her ';dream prince', 'home-coziness' 'and likes cooking and sewing' http://datingtalk.info/non-cgi/emoticons/laugh.gif

I say good-on-her, why not use your beauty and take from silly naive men who really should know better. http://datingtalk.info/non-cgi/emoticons/wow.gif

At the end of the day the only reason pretty russian chicks can even scam men is because of the mans stupidty and there inbuilt weakness to become c*^t-struck over a nice body and even the vaguest possibilty of having sex with it.

Mind you, the delicious nadya looks spookily like my sister http://datingtalk.info/non-cgi/emoticons/sad.gif so i can't even delve into a 3 minute fantasy http://datingtalk.info/non-cgi/emoticons/sad.gif

liam

[MartinUK]

Bat,,
That's the one I was talking about. I responded recently to those pics also and as soon as I saw her reply I recognised her e-mail address (Nadya22) from a couple of years previously. 2 years ago, whilst still very attractive, Nadya or is it Nadia22 was a different lady. Obviously some guy or gal behind it posting false pics!

[Bonds]

Hi all,

I'm new to register by have been reading for about a month and I have to ask liam somthing. Could I get your sisters Phone number?[QUOTE= ]Mind you, the delicious nadya looks spookily like my sister

[liam]

yeah mate, but she's getting married soon to a paratrooper so it might'en be too good for your health http://datingtalk.info/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

[peterjohnb]

Come on BAT she's just fallen for your charming and sensitive letters!! !!!

[Bonds]

yeah mate, but she's getting married soon to a paratrooper so it might'en be too good for your health

Outch! http://datingtalk.info/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

[Bonds]

I have to ask, There aren't alot of on these chat boards are there?

[Bonds]

WOMEN!! I forgot WOMEN!! http://datingtalk.info/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

[bat_guano]

OK, now this could be LOADS of fun. http://datingtalk.info/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif Where should I tell her I live? Does Hollywood sound too obvious? Maybe something like...Seattle. And I spend most of my winters in Florida for the nice warm weather.

As for a profession, perhaps a "work at home" software consultant. Or...Any ideas?

To make it sound real enough, how about something about liking animals (cats? dogs?).

Oh, I'll need a picture, also. Something handsome...but not TOO handsome. Somewhere between handsome and ordinary.

I'll also need the help of any of you ladies out there to pull this off (Nataliya? Vicky? Angelin?).

Let's have FUN with this, OK? It's either that or play it straight until she asks for money and then turn her over to antiscam.org and the rest of the blacklists.

What do you think?

P.S.
Liam...I do NOT want the phone # for your sister. I have a distinct aversion to have all my bones broken at the same time. Probably S.A.S. for all I know! http://datingtalk.info/non-cgi/emoticons/laugh.gif

[MartinUK]

Not on this chat board but if you go to www.rwguide.com there are far more but they don't take prisoners! That shithead Rascal would never survive,,, by the way,, anyone know how his gun-running is going,, I only ask because of the recent news item and the last we heard he was off to SPb if he ever found out where it was!
Bat, can't you come up with a surname such as Bush or Clinton (no offence intended) but please use some imagination!

[bat_guano]

Martin,
OK, I'll choose something imaginative. Something like...Beau Chance (do you think she...or he...knows French?). Or Brett Cantrell (Southern, don't you know?). Any ideas?

Bat

[MartinUK]

How about Ivor Scammer or Ivor Dickbetweenmylegs or of course you could be an illegitamate child of William Jefferson Clinton .......... Sorry Bill!
How about you go to some male site (perhaps gay) on the internet, copy and paste a nude bloke (which could be you)and trade like for like with Nadya.
But only if you promise to show us the results!

[bat_guano]

Oh, absolutely!! I wouldn't leave anyone out of this!

[Nataliya]

Guys, I can't believe it!! http://datingtalk.info/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

Someone shows you pair of silicon tits and you already drooling all over! http://datingtalk.info/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif

...and you complain, you get scammed, but of course you do, it's sooooo easy!!

[bat_guano]

Nataliya,
GREAT!!! We've got a woman on our side! Now we can REALLY set it up. OK, everybody, here's the setup....

I saw her pic on Freedating (they have since taken her profile off) and send her an email that said to write me at bat_guano@yahoo.com and give me her email address and I would send her a pic and information. This is what I got back today:

Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2003 12:09:45 +0300
From: nadya22
To: bat_guano@yahoo.com

Hi Jim ! I was very much surprised when have read your letter. Your letter of me has sincerely interested. I think that you the fine person. But to draw these conclusions, we should study be relative each other better. As you already know my name Nadya, my birthday July, 28 . I this year finish Institute, my trade the teacher, but my higher education can enable to work to me main in a kindergarten or the principal. Unfortunately I do not know the English language and
now I write you, through the program the translator. To me have told that it is good translation. I look in Internet for my partner, to be able to convey the desires/dreams yearnings of my heart and soul and hopefully in the process to find the right person to create a veryunique, truly extraordinary, wonderful, loving, exotic and passionate relationship. I sincerely desire to meet someone who is genuinely
interested in building a lasting and committed relationship. I would like to find the right person and begin the process of building a truly incredible relationship. I'm looking for an exceptional person who has emotional depth, has the capacity to love deeply and embraces the vision and experience of intense emotional, physical, intellectual
and spiritual connection and synergy. I'm romantic, loveable, sensual, compassionate, intuitive, kind, open, reserved, spiritual, natural, flexible, quiet, reliable, healthy, sympathetic and sincere. I appreciate integrity, honesty, emotions, love and peace. I love nature, especially the unspoiled. I love the sun, the ocean, lagoons, the beach, the palms, the coconuts, the sand, the warm and sunny climate, in short terms, I love tropical islands. My hobbies are reading, travelling, taking a sun bath, swimming, discussing, personal growth. Now I'm looking for a partnership full of love, passion,romance, happiness, spirituality, nature and of course a fulfilled
sexuality. I would like to create the relationship of my dreams with a person, with almost the same interests. Harmony is very important for me. I'm looking for an attractive person, who likes to share my dreams and goals. You should be my lover, my soul mate, my best friend, a very special person to share life experiences with and to build an amazing, spiritual, passionate and loving relationship. You should be person whose spirituality is present and meaningful in everyday life.
Who is openhearted, kind, sensual, affectionate, hopefully and erotic. hope you will write me too, with many information about you. Where exactly do you live, what is the reason you're looking for a partner, what are your likes and dislikes, please tell me everything a! bout your life! And I would be so happy if you could send me more photos of you ! I hope to hear from you soon again!


nadya22@pisem.net

OK...you see what I mean? All I said was to send me your email address. From the first line it sounds like I sent her a long involved letter about myself. Then, later on, she wants me to send MORE pictures of myself. It might be nice if I had even sent her ONE. http://datingtalk.info/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

Now, let's see if we can zip her a letter. A letter that will imply that I have some cash (not a great deal) laying around. That, plus a fairly nice looking picture and ask her for some more (ahem) revealing photos if she (ahem) has them. http://datingtalk.info/non-cgi/emoticons/laugh.gif

Ideas, people?

Bat

[QUOTE= (bat_guano @ Aug. 14 2003,05:06)]Nataliya,

[Vicky]

Imagine for just a minute that this girl is not a scammer, and is really looking for someone, telling she doesn't know english at all, thus using one and the same once written first letter to tell as much as possible about her... Isn't this game then seem a bit cruel? Would you like to be that part of game with bunch of people laughing at you? I wouldn't.

[MartinUK]

Vicky,
She is a scammer, not the picture but the email address is that of a scammer. A year or 2 ago she was blacklisted for profiling with different names and different ages, in some profiles she had a child, in others she did not and very recently she has been blacklisted again for asking for money.

[Nataliya]

Playing games is cruel isn't it?!

I wonder what made you think she is genuine, Vicky? Naked pictures, is that what you send the guy in your first letter?!

http://datingtalk.info/non-cgi/emoticons/rock.gif

[liam]

usually i'd be agreeing with you hear vicky http://datingtalk.info/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif , but, she's a scammer . liam

[peterjohnb]

Don't send a picture of an attractive guy.

[777]

A year or 2 ago she was blacklisted for profiling with different names and different ages, in some profiles she had a child, in others she did not and very recently she has been blacklisted again for asking for money.

Very probably she

[liam]

7'y the voice of reason http://datingtalk.info/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

[777]

Naked pictures, is that what you send the guy in your first letter?! http://datingtalk.info/non-cgi/emoticons/rock.gif
I wouldn't call it even half-naked, Nataliya! Maybe she thought: What could I do for better presenting myself by having a not so beautiful face? You know, women are tricky in fishing men ... http://datingtalk.info/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif

[liam]

http://datingtalk.info/non-cgi/emoticons/laugh.gif http://datingtalk.info/non-cgi/emoticons/laugh.gif

[Vicky]

Besides, i wasn't insisting she's a scammer, you failed with the backdoor once again, i said - just imagine and imagine yourself being a toy of a game of any kind.

Naked pictures, is that what you send the guy in your first letter?!
I wouldn't call it even half-naked, Nataliya! Maybe she thought: What could I do for better presenting myself by having a not so beautiful face? You know, women are tricky in fishing men ...
Sure thing,

Hiding her not so pretty face behind pair of perfect tits?!! http://datingtalk.info/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif That's cool and very inventive!

Besides, i wasn't insisting she's a scammer, you failed with the backdoor once again, i said - just imagine and imagine yourself being a toy of a game of any kind.
And what were you thinking when you've joined this site/forum?! I guess most of people here were "toyed around" once or twice. You always running that risk on the Internet, as you never know who is on the other side. Mostly it's about 5-10% of genuine people- rest are here to play one game or another. "Real life" relationships are hard enough, Internet ones- are even harder, as you are dealing with the "ghost". And from the look of it, girls succeeded in their games quite well. So, what's wrong with playing with one of them?!! Let guys amuse themselves!! http://datingtalk.info/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif

[QUOTE= (Guest @ Aug. 14 2003,19:22)]And what were you thinking when you've joined this site/forum?! I guess most of people here were "toyed around" once or twice. You always running that risk on the Internet, as you never know who is on the other side. Mostly it's about 5-10% of genuine people- rest are here to play one game or another. "Real life" relationships are hard enough, Internet ones- are even harder, as you are dealing with the "ghost". And from the look of it, girls succeeded in their games quite well. So, what's wrong with playing with one of them?!! Let guys amuse themselves!! http://datingtalk.info/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif

[MartinUK]

777,
I know from personal experience a year or 2 back that that email address is a scammer, I know it is proven beyond doubt!
OK, if you don't want to accept this then you write to her and send her some money when she asks for it, I won't try to stop you!
And I have better things to do than sift thru the archives and this/last months updates of Elena's blacklist to learn again what I already know!
I could post links but I simply can't be bothered to waste my time again on a proven deceptionist!

[777]

... than sift thru the archives and this/last months updates of Elena's blacklist ...

Neither pics nor the cited email adress could be found there ...

I could post links but I simply can't be bothered to waste my time again on a proven deceptionist!
Never waste time!

[777]

[QUOTE= (Nataliya @ Aug. 14 2003,10:37)]Naked pictures, is that what you send the guy in your first letter?!
I wouldn't call it even half-naked, Nataliya! Maybe she thought: What could I do for better presenting myself by having a not so beautiful face? You know, women are tricky in fishing men ...
Sure thing,

Hiding her not so pretty face behind pair of perfect tits?!! http://datingtalk.info/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif That's cool and very inventive!

[MartinUK]

777,
It pays to search with open eyes, start chewing on this and please don't try to say different pics or emails, it is all the same scam:

http://www.womenrussia.com/blackpage192.htm#ukraine

http://www.russian-detective.com/black_l....lya.htm (http://www.russian-detective.com/black_lists/individ/new/kremenchug_olyax/olya.htm)

http://www.russian-detective.com/black_l....ga2.htm (http://www.russian-detective.com/black_lists/individ/new/kondrusova/kondrusova_olga2.htm)


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Scammer from Ukraine

Letters:

Hello, dear XXXXXXXX! Thank you for your photo you look like very hadsome person and I woulder why you coudn't fout the special woman in your country? Maybe you have the same situation as I. XXXX, you know, I feel that it is a part of my life that is missing but it is not easy to find that special man that can make me give myself completely to him. I am still hoping to meet him. Do you think that we perhaps have already met what we both are looking for? It would be a great luck indeed. And if so, I don't want to miss that chance. You seem to be a very kind and intelligent person, I would like to know much more about you, your life, your dreams and just talk about whatever you want to.. XXXXXX, I will elocate to other country for the right man without doubts. So, dear, I will be waiting for your next letter impatiently. Hope to hear from you very soon. XXX, I am very interested in you and will be happy to continue our lettering and then to meet with in person. Time will show. Kiss you Natasha.

Hi! I am glad that you answered to my email. It's interesting to receive the email from man of another country. I want to tell you about me and my life. I am cheerful woman, I think that the people don't must be gloomy. I like camping, fishing (there are many men in my country who love fishing). I like to see movies. Usualy it's romantic movies, comedies. Now I want to tell you where I live. So, I live in Lugansk, it's not small town in our country. There are many beautiful places here. Maybe you saw this places on the pictures in internet. Do you saw? Please tell me about your live place, your town. I want to know where you live. I have the purpose: I want to find my soulmate, I'm looking for companion of life with which I want to be. Of course I don't want to make mistake. My intentions are serious. You may think: why am I looking for man in other country? I think: Our country is beautiful of course, but there are some problems. There are financial problems in our country. It derivates drunkenness among the men, growth of number of criminal elements. I had two men, they are liked to drink alcohol. So, I decided to find my man in internet from other country In future, if I shall have a children I want that they must live in normal society. I badly know the computer, I ask the internet center consultant from internet service for help to find the nominee, he show me 'match' service, I saw the profiles and I decide to write you. I decide that you quite worthy man. So what you think? You may ask about my English. You must know, our people learn english in school during five years. Then it learns in universities or college. By the way I finished the university . You know, I like to cook very much. My favourite dishes are italian and russian. I know english not bad. I can read and write english, I speak a little. Sometimes I use the dictionary to translate some words. I am 21 years old. I live in small flat which I rented. I have a mother. My father dead five years ago. He was taxi driver and he has got in failure (auto accident). I am very missed him. I havn't any brothers and sisters. My mother work in food-processing industries, she is casher of food store. I am work as bookkeeper in office of public catering. I make the receipts, checks and other. I think that you understand my english. Do you understand? I hope yes. I write you from work, we have two computers here for accounts department. I work five days per week. Sometimes I work in weekend. What are you doing in weekends and free time? I want to know more about you, and you? I will waiting for your responese, Kissing you Natasha

Hi my dear! Thank for your fine letter, I have decided, that we should will meet. It will be not an easy step for you and me. But we should do it. I so have decided and I think that you agree with my idea. The biggest difficulty on my trip is an airflight. For me this sum very big, but I am simply sure, that you cannot pay my ticket aboard the plane. It will cost 720 USD. I can pay only 200 USD. I think, that you in the morning tomorrow will need to go in bank and to send for my name through Western Union 500 USD. I do not like when to me refuse in simple. If we shall not make this step now - we shall not make it never.

Dear XXX, I am very happy to know that you want our meeting as I But I don't tell you before our meeting I want to go abroud for a work and choise your country, I think it is very relatable country for a good woking and best palce for a start new life and find reall love. so I start to do the documents. It took 7 monthes. Now I have passport and my visa will be very soon, now it is only one thing buy ticketes and can meet. I will have the work for first time and we can see each other,look into eyes and deside our plans for future. You know I deside buy tickets here because it is much cheaper than in your country and besides if with my visa will take much time I can gave the tikcets back. Even when you come to me I give you the money back. I thing it is much reasonable way. Only I need now your help with buying the tickets. In air-lines company in Kiev I can buy tickets for 659 usd. So when I will have visa in my hands we finally meet and if you wish when I'll go back to my country you can come with me and meet with my family and country. Hope you like my prepouse. Your Natasha.

Please, if you agree send me this sum of money through the Western Union on my name: Natasha Litvinova, adress: Ukraine, Lugansk, Sovetskaya street, 5/50. Waiting for your response, Natasha

[QUOTE= (Guest @ Aug. 14 2003,21:04)][QUOTE= (Guest @ Aug. 14 2003,19:22)]And what were you thinking when you've joined this site/forum?! I guess most of people here were "toyed around" once or twice. You always running that risk on the Internet, as you never know who is on the other side. Mostly it's about 5-10% of genuine people- rest are here to play one game or another. "Real life" relationships are hard enough, Internet ones- are even harder, as you are dealing with the "ghost". And from the look of it, girls succeeded in their games quite well. So, what's wrong with playing with one of them?!! Let guys amuse themselves!! http://datingtalk.info/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif

[QUOTE= (777 @ Aug. 14 2003,21:43)]I got blushed by reading your lines, Nataliya!
http://datingtalk.info/non-cgi/emoticons/wow.gif
This site is visited by honourable romantic gentlemen from US, UK, Germany and other countries (and by a gentleman learner from NZ), who dream about holding hands with a beloved lady and perhaps press a shy kiss on a woman

[QUOTE= (Guest @ Aug. 15 2003,00:18)]I am talking reality here. You are talking of how you imagine it should be.
Yes, we all come here for a reason- one or another. Some to find friends, some to scam them. And we all PEOPLE behind that screen- true (last time I've checked, animals couldn't type

[MartinUK]

Nataliya,
I guess Adultfriendfinder is for people who believe that serious ladies, hoping to meet serious guy(s) for a serious relationship, display their breasts (or more) on the internet and subsequently will not heed logical reasoning that just perhaps, such ladies (if one may call them ladies!) are not so serious as one likes to believe!

[MartinUK]

Angelin,
If only the guys would listen to your fine words !!!

Approximately 1 year ago a girl (Wind of Love Agency) tried to scam me and they were so rude to me I decided to publicise their antics.

I posted this pretty lady's profile on one site in particular to the effect:

Hi my name is Olga, I talk total shit, I am from either Kiev or Odessa but who cares, you just write to me and I shall lie to you, infact I tell so many lies I'm not sure where I am from myself.
You write to me, I talk total shit, I ask you for money, you send me it so I continue talking shit. I'm not interested in you, only your money, infact I'm no better than a common thief but who cares, I'm working for Wind of Love Agency ..... who I hasten to add are UKrainian Tours (real name) and more recently Red Rose Trip.

Posting this profile any replies were directed to my email and you would not believe how many guys wrote saying they wanted to meet me. I told them I was a common thief and not interested in them but they kept coming back. Eventually I told them they would need to send me (Olga) $1,000 and once I had received the money I would agree to meet them. That seemed to put them off!

The moral of this story is that I realised there is no hope whatsoever of putting the scammers out of business whilst there are so many western jerks around!

[777]

[QUOTE= (Guest @ Aug. 15 2003,00:30)][QUOTE= (777 @ Aug. 14 2003,21:43)]I got blushed by reading your lines, Nataliya!
http://datingtalk.info/non-cgi/emoticons/wow.gif
This site is visited by honourable romantic gentlemen from US, UK, Germany and other countries (and by a gentleman learner from NZ), who dream about holding hands with a beloved lady and perhaps press a shy kiss on a woman

[QUOTE= (Guest @ Aug. 15 2003,01:42)][QUOTE= (Guest @ Aug. 15 2003,00:18)]I am talking reality here. You are talking of how you imagine it should be.
Yes, we all come here for a reason- one or another. Some to find friends, some to scam them. And we all PEOPLE behind that screen- true (last time I've checked, animals couldn't type

[777]

(MartinUK @ Aug. 14 2003,22:39)

Seemingly you

[QUOTE= (777 @ Aug. 15 2003,02:02)]Sorry, I didn

[MartinUK]

777,
Are you trying to tell me that just from some of those links I posted did not have the same photo(s) but differents names etc.

This site is visited by honourable romantic gentlemen from US, UK, Germany and other countries (and by a gentleman learner from NZ), who dream about holding hands with a beloved lady and perhaps press a shy kiss on a woman

[Vicky]

People like playing games, just dont forget - and angelin's right here - you're playing with people, whatever good or bad they are. Let them be scammers, jerks, whoever, no one's denying you the right to play those games, just two things to remember - the boomerang rule is the first, you'll get what you give, and the second - yea, it maybe funny and amusing but not sure these games should be displayed here as something we all should be proud of.

Answering to Nataliya - i didn't come to this forum to become an object for someone's hatred or disapproval, as well as of approval, and definitely not with the purpose of hunting scammers. Just friends, talking, having some fun, meeting people, learning new things, what forums usually are for. Do you have anything against that very simple and totally harmless purpose of mine?

[Nataliya]

People like playing games, just dont forget - and angelin's right here - you're playing with people, whatever good or bad they are. Let them be scammers, jerks, whoever, no one's denying you the right to play those games, just two things to remember - the boomerang rule is the first, you'll get what you give, and the second - yea, it maybe funny and amusing but not sure these games should be displayed here as something we all should be proud of.

Answering to Nataliya - i didn't come to this forum to become an object for someone's hatred or disapproval, as well as of approval, and definitely not with the purpose of hunting scammers. Just friends, talking, having some fun, meeting people, learning new things, what forums usually are for. Do you have anything against that very simple and totally harmless purpose of mine?
LOL It's nice to know why are you here, thanks for sharing. I am around for the same exact purpose. http://datingtalk.info/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif

But you and Angelin are missing my point. I've never asked why are you here, but stated that people come for different reasons and you can never be sure if anyone is going to "play" with you or even who this person really is. Basically we are all in the same position here.

As for your question- I don't even know you, how can I be against anything.

Also, there is nothing wrong with the healthy debate.

Cheers!

[liam]

Well well well, young nadia'a tasty breasts and long legs (please bear with me, i'm typing one-handed http://datingtalk.info/non-cgi/emoticons/wow.gif http://datingtalk.info/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif ) sure have caused disention on the forum!!!! Little does the poor wee waif know of the trouble her profiles caused. Young 7'ny's in deep shock (such things would never happen in Germany http://datingtalk.info/non-cgi/emoticons/sad.gif ), never-mind a delicious tasty carrot juice cocktail will have you sorted mate. I could give you a few links to sites would reduce you to a catatonic state.!!! (for strictly educational purposes only)

Its a big shame Nadia doesnt want to join the forum, some-one please invite her.......i'd certainly welcome her with open arms http://datingtalk.info/non-cgi/emoticons/cool.gif .........mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

As for a shy kiss on the cheek!!!!!!!!!!!!!!, no no no: my teenage days of fumbling around dodgy 80's school disco's are long gone (the horror the horror http://datingtalk.info/non-cgi/emoticons/cool.gif ) and even then i did'nt lack confidence so-to-speak!. Gentlemenly behaviour is , of course always valid and acceptable , being an [/B]Englishman educated reasonably well it comes naturally (at school, even when we were six or seven we'd gat a smack if we did'nt let the girls in the class go through a door first!) and its great to be able to put on the 'charm' on a whim..........and the young ladies love it. So actually , in a courting way its actually a valid and useful tool for helping you get into the girl of your desires pants!!!!!!

Whats wrong with nadia's face, am i in the company of men who could 'score' a girl like her in there home-town?........or, as i suspect, is it only by nipping across the border east that you find your-selfs in the company of such girls? Its a bit harsh to rubbish someone on there appearence...........and childish, why don't all of us regular 'posters' put on a snap of our own, kets see how confident we'd all be then of our own beauty! She's not so silly guys, smart enough to realise that it'll only take a couple of photo's of her looking 100% ready to jump our bones and the dollars undoubtably have been flowing in. I'm sitting here at my desk, she's probably dressed up, at a cool party having a great time! (who's the mug?, i wonder!)

She might be a scammer, but its hardly crime-of-the-century stuff, look at CNN tonight, the whole programs dedicated to the eradication of this evil nasty manipulating species who pray on Gentlemen of Honour, or is that silly ####-witts[B] who get all hot and bothered at even the slightest possiblility of , as 7'ny says, giving her a shy peck on the cheek (i can think of a thousand things i'd rather do with nadia). No , its men who need it wakeup, as soon as a pretty girl's into her teens she quickly learns that a 'bit of leg' and a sneaky pout will work wonders in every part of her life. The girls who live next door to me do this to the advantage, and the girls who live in vladiviostock, paris, manchester, berlin, capetown.....................everywhere ...............so lets not hold up nadia as the epitomy of dodgyness. She's a buisness women and probably has heaps more cash than me. Simple.

liam

[777]

[QUOTE= (Guest @ Aug. 15 2003,02:21)][QUOTE= (777 @ Aug. 15 2003,02:02)]Sorry, I didn

[777]

777,
Are you trying to tell me that just from some of those links I posted did not have the same photo(s) but differents names etc.
...
To repeat myself, I can confirm to you that those links are all part of the same scam and I speak from a personal experience.
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I see, your first and your third link show the same person, and I don

[Nataliya]

[QUOTE= (777 @ Aug. 15 2003,07:26)]Sorry, Nataliya, you failed, again only 5 emoticons (smilies of your own don

[777]

(Natalya @ Aug. 15 2003,17.24)

http://www.industreal.spb.ru/smiles/lady.gif

[Nataliya]

http://fool.exler.ru/sm/appl.gif Well, well, I see certain honourable German gentleman has been doing his homework! LOL

[bat_guano]

OK, everybody, I have had an attack of conscience. I don't think I want to "play" with a scammer. It's not right.

Also, I am in a very bad mood today. The girl I was writing, the one I said was so sweet (etc.), just asked me for money today to pay for internet access at the internet cafe she was writing me from. I'm going to confirm that she's a scammer and then post her on the scam sites.

I am truly crushed.

Bat

[timheaney]

anastasiya is scamer from kerov.

She originally posted on Free Russian Dating with a picture that showed her breast and the second picture showed thigh all the way up to her hip. She is 26 years old wanting someone 30-55 years old. I figured her for a scammer and thought I'd have some fun, so I wrote her and gave her nothing more than my Yahoo! email address. Well, I forgot about her and am writing someone really nice...I think (and hope).

So today I get the form letter with three pictures attached. Along with the suggestive parts of the email, there is one "normal" picture and 2 pictures showing her breasts.

So I'm in the mood for some fun. Let's play a game called "Let's Play With The Scammer". Anyone game?

Hehehehehe!!! http://datingtalk.info/non-cgi/emoticons/laugh.gif http://datingtalk.info/non-cgi/emoticons/laugh.gif http://datingtalk.info/non-cgi/emoticons/laugh.gif[/QUOTE]

[timheaney]

anastasiya is scamer from kerov she scmed £250 of me for visa to come you know the rest