Russian women cheat

[blabla]

Hello
To the naive western men . Please notice :
1- The Russian women DON'T look for a western man
2- They look for money
3- They want to use a western man as an instrument for
A- Rent B- Heating cost C- As a guide ın a new social
enviroment. After the immigration......in the West !

Eternal Rule : A nice woman never quits her country
except SOMETHING IS WRONG WITH HER

[MartinUK]

Bla bla bla bla bla!

[humanistX]

Believe me it sounds as a truth , but with 20 % exclusions. Mostly it can work out with women who have kids , or live in the country, or can not find competentive partner here who is the same geniune and hard working. Some purles really exist. But it is great work, which needs much chatacter and patience to find HER . Good luck!

[MartinUK]

Humanist,
Yes I basically agree with you although not sure about the 20% figue quoted.
However blablabla..... has generalised to the effect that all women are the same, perhaps has had a personal disappointment but very wrong to say all are the same.

[sean]

I am not sure if I am in the best place! Seems a bit dominated by old kings and queens who's realms have been well reamed and are still prepared to maintain the self same ass lickin culture!
I guess I'll stick with my gut instinct and leave you veterans to what your good at!
#### me, what a bunch of #### ups!
Why don't you open up your own forum, instead of boring up this one! How selfish can you get? 'You the core group who manipulate and dominate this forum! #### off and get a life!!!
Hi TuP !

Sorry, I was going to lick you a little bit, but I am afraid it is impossible for me to lick such a big and great a*s*s*h*o*l*e like you are.

Besides there is another thing : If I don

[MartinUK]

Sean,
I wouldn't even give the tosser the time of day,

I thought russian women were good at heart?

To blabla

Quote:
except SOMETHING IS WRONG WITH HER

-Of course. If she was 10 out of 10 in every aspect she would not want to leave - or she would leave and come back in her own executive jet...

And if she was 10 out of 10 she would not have much time for me.

Most of us are only human, and "...SOMETHING IS WRONG..." with most of us.

I for example never learnt to play the piano.

The purpose of the exercise is to find out whether a potential partner's shortcomings are acceptable or not.

(Actually, one should rather look at the positive aspects....
"What is Right - not what is Wrong...")

van

Hello guys,

I have been reading these messages for quite some time since I met a girl trough one of the many sites. I sometimes read about a blacklist of 'ghost' girls. Can anyone give me the adress of this so-called blacklist.

Does anyone know Yunona-singles? Could this be realiable?

Great forum by the way!

[MartinUK]

Van,
To be 10 out of 10 is to be perfect, no human being is perfect.

Dutchy,
Go to www.google.com and in search enter something like 'Russia Blacklist' then view the results.

[NIKOS_GRE]

Hi all.Long time no see.
We wrote thousands of pages trying to complete the profile of a russian lady.I guess most of them had bad criticism but most of us are still trying to find HER. What do you think is the profile of an average western man, looking for a russian lady?I know that my question could have a variaty of answers, but it would be nice to know our competitors better. http://datingtalk.info/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif

Nikos,

Re.
"...
profile of an average western man, looking for a russian lady
..."

-for a start, it could be very different from the profile of a man looking for a "girl" !!

van

PS -I would like to find a Lady, but since I am not always a Gentleman (and I do not know which knife and fork to start with if there are more than one pair ...) I could have some problems.
-And I never learned to play the piano...

Re.
Scams, Cheating

1) Agencies

2) Individuals

-could be a good way to 'structure' or 'organise' the information....

[QUOTE= (blabla @ Nov. 23 2003,02:00)]Hello
To the naive western men .

runlet
writes:
"....Ha-ha!It is western men who look for nice women here..
Why are you here? it is mean that you are not nice...
Otherways why you get not married with western women? ...."


1) What is a nice person like yourself doing in a Forum like this?

2) Each person probably has a unique and personal reason to be here.

3) Often these reasons have something to do with 'values', 'personal beliefs', 'world view', etc.

4) I personally think I am 'nice' (at least in some of the senses of the word). But is 'nice' enough to built a relationship on?
....
nice

[Nataliya]

[QUOTE= (blabla @ Nov. 23 2003,02:00)]Eternal Rule : A

Nataliya
writes:

"....Biggest **** I ever heard! ..."

-and you are writing from Spain.(?)
where there are lots of bulls. Sorry, I got sidetracked...

-Actually: runlet thinks that the men are not 'nice'
and blabla thinks that the women are not 'nice'

-so, it should be possible to find a match...

Why do the two 'nice' people, blabla and runlet (and other perfect people) , not stay away from this Forum and leave it to the rest of us with all our human shortcomings?

[Nataliya]

Nataliya
writes:

"....Biggest bull I ever heard! ..."

-and you are writing from Spain.(?)
where there are lots of bulls. Sorry, I got sidetracked...
Get tracked back Van

[MartinUK]

With regard to Runlet's post, the very point I made earlier in another topic, jealously will get you nowhere Runlet !!!

Nataliya
writes:
"......thinking that maybe your posts are too boring for example??..."

Yes, I know. I am working on it...

It is also a matter of attitude.
When I asked my dentist whether he found his job boring, he asked that he actually found it full-filling.

--I am working on it... I recently went to a book sale and bought a few books to cheer me up.
One was about Ethnic Jokes
-but I also found one about Politically Correct Language
-so, now I cannot tell any of the Ethnic Jokes!

[Nataliya]

Nataliya
writes:
"......thinking that maybe your posts are too boring for example??..."

Yes, I know. I am working on it...

It is also a matter of attitude.
When I asked my dentist whether he found his job boring, he asked that he actually found it full-filling.

--I am working on it... I recently went to a book sale and bought a few books to cheer me up.
One was about Ethnic Jokes
-but I also found one about Politically Correct Language
-so, now I cannot tell any of the Ethnic Jokes!
See?! Much better now! http://datingtalk.info/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

Serious, that was just an example, don't take it personally http://datingtalk.info/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif

Re.:

Cheating:

Another 'round' of Profile reading...

-found some women (ladies???) I have seen before somewhere else, except they have changed their information - including their birthday (and year!)

-but, a lady has no age, OK.
-what about a woman?

Well, in life instincts are very, very, very important. For example, does everyone become a millionaire? Often it requires certain instincts or cultivating it, through experience. It is preferrable to have it be automatic rather than learn the hard way.
I think it is ridiculous to say most Russian women are untrustworthy and just want the Western man's money. It is like saying all people in Egypt are hucksters, because when you go to the markets you deal with many people who try to trick you. However, that is not most of the people. As far as the women of Russia, I dated one woman. She did tell me there are many who will try to trick you. But for many people with decent instincts with some exceptions, you can spot a fake. I spotted a few myself.

Basileus ,
writes:
"... I think it is ridiculous to say most Russian women......."
-and so on...

I also think that it is ridiculous ....

-but how do stereotypes 'start'?

I mentioned above a book I once bought, a book about
Ethnic Jokes.

How do they start?

(-and, why do the Swedish tell the same jokes about Norwegians as the British tell about the Irish???)

[liam]

why was'nt jesus born in russia?

They could'nt find 3 wise men and a virgin http://datingtalk.info/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif http://datingtalk.info/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif


whats the difference between a blond and shopping-trolley (cart)?

When you dump your load into a shopping trolley it does'nt follow you home afterwards http://datingtalk.info/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif http://datingtalk.info/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif

it is true there are many scammers around but there are also many honest women, you just have to be careful.
my friend met a woman on freepersonals and she has her visa and they are to be married in early 2004 so it can work.

"Russian women cheat"
blabla and runlet think that the women and the men are not 'nice'.

Certain people in the US and certain people in the FSU tell horror stories about what happens when Western men marry women from the FSU.

In my view a 'picture' is slowly emerging (told you I am slow):

They want to control other people!
by mis-information,
or by 'selective reporting'
(which is also mis-information and manipulation).

I hope we can use this Forum to get a more balanced view on things.

.......................
-apparently some Russian dictionaries prefer the term 'counter-balanced' (which actually gives a nice 'picture' to it...)

[Mhooh]

Nataliya
writes:
"......thinking that maybe your posts are too boring for example??..."

Yes, I know. I am working on it...
Don't work on that!
What the hell are you doing?!
Just be yourself and have fun!!!
The rest will follow on itsself, like bananas grow on some particular trees with sunshine and rain.

Stop ass-kissing, just for your own good sake, please...

[Nataliya]

Nataliya
writes:
"......thinking that maybe your posts are too boring for example??..."

Yes, I know. I am working on it...
Don't work on that!
What the hell are you doing?!
Just be yourself and have fun!!!
The rest will follow on itsself, like bananas grow on some particular trees with sunshine and rain.

Stop ass-kissing, just for your own good sake, please...
I hope you're not serious, are you? http://datingtalk.info/non-cgi/emoticons/rock.gif Cause you just ripped my sentence, if you read the whole post you can see that it was a joke. Before giving such valuable advises, please make sure you understand what the conversation is all about.

[Mhooh]

Nataliya
writes:
"......thinking that maybe your posts are too boring for example??..."

Yes, I know. I am working on it...
Don't work on that!
What the hell are you doing?!
Just be yourself and have fun!!!
The rest will follow on itsself, like bananas grow on some particular trees with sunshine and rain.

Stop ass-kissing, just for your own good sake, please...
I hope you're not serious, are you? http://datingtalk.info/non-cgi/emoticons/rock.gif Cause you just ripped my sentence, if you read the whole post you can see that it was a joke. Before giving such valuable advises, please make sure you understand what the conversation is all about.
I wondered if the guy was serious about it....

You where joking, I know.

As about me?
I am http://datingtalk.info/non-cgi/emoticons/mad.gif dangerously serious. ( http://datingtalk.info/non-cgi/emoticons/laugh.gif )
Greatings from,
Mhooh!!!

[Nataliya]

[QUOTE= (Mhooh @ Jan. 06 2004,20:04)]I wondered if the guy was serious about it....

You where joking, I know.

As about me?
I am

Nataliya
writes:

".....Sometimes it's a good idea to use smilies. I wonder why Van never use them?!....."

-So do I!
-Or rather, why my browser seems to reject them!
:O javascript:emoticon(':O')
javascript:emoticon(':O')

Mhooh
writes:
"..............The rest will follow on itsself, like bananas grow on some particular trees with sunshine and rain......"

Actually, strictly speaking:
The plant on which bananas grow, is not a tree!!

.............
-and, yes, I probably should look into the
Smilies - browser issue.

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[Mhooh]

Mhooh
writes:
"..............The rest will follow on itsself, like bananas grow on some particular trees with sunshine and rain......"

Actually, strictly speaking:
The plant on which bananas grow, is not a tree!!

.............
-and, yes, I probably should look into the
Smilies - browser issue.

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You are absolutly right about the banana-'trees', they look like a tree, but they are just very big weed(?)-like plants.
But, the Dutch even have songs about banana TREES, something like: " Get ou of that banana tree, get out of that bananatreeeeeehheee" (very free translated). http://datingtalk.info/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif
Be Happy this is just a forum, so I don't have to sing outloud... http://datingtalk.info/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

In Egypt I once walked under banana euhh tree like entities and they were really BIG. Cool plants in every sense of the word.
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Mhooh
writes:
".............But, the Dutch even have songs about banana TREES, something like: " Get ou of that banana tree, get out of that bananatreeeeeehheee" (very free translated). ............"

1) The Dutch have lots of things.
The country is a low lying country
(-you experts on the English language: do I need a comma in the previous sentence?)

2) One famous Dutch story is about a boy who put his finger in a dyke.

3) If you have been to Egypt, you probably know that if the women there forget to take the Pill, they become mummies.

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[chgoboy]

I give you 10 to 1 odds that blabla is a WOMAN FROM AMERICA. Been there...dated that. I know the attitude and I know a bitter threatened woman when I see (read) one.
I happen to work for a very large well known romance tour company that offers trips to meet these women in Russia and Ukraine. Blabla couldn't be more wrong. Go there time after time. Meet them. Stay in their cities. Spend week after week getting to know them. Keep going back. Talk for hours....and days. Month after month. Year after year. I do. And blabla doesn't have a friggin' clue. But she'd like you to THINK she does.
Ya wanna see the blablas in the USA REALLY go nuts. Drop 1000 of these wonderful Russian women in the middle of America and watch the American women like her "go out of business".

Yes Russian woman cheat, also American, Orientals, and so on
and so on, the same we can say abou the men....don't we all cheat at some time or another?

Be for real........... :

[Thunderdome]

Van,

"One famous Dutch story is about a boy who put his finger in a dyke".

I know, heard that story also, and indeed it made history.
Wasn't his finger though, and probably also a bit of a different dyke than you're thinking of.
The story also never told if the dyke appreciated it at all, only known is the fact that it did not surrender to urgent pressures.

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Thunderdome,

I take your word for it.

You are a man of the world.

I am just a little naive boy. You probably remember that you put me in my place when I tried to assume a 'name' which could indicate being 'of the world'. ("van der welt")
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[Thunderdome]

He naief ventje Van http://datingtalk.info/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif

did I see some smiley's there ? http://datingtalk.info/non-cgi/emoticons/cool.gif http://datingtalk.info/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif

I'm just from this world like you are, or maybe you're small & green? http://datingtalk.info/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif
If so lead me to your master, we'll split the profits http://datingtalk.info/non-cgi/emoticons/laugh.gif

Statistically you are wrong blabla! If they were cheating, and only after your money (if you have any) there should be a lot of divorces after a short period of time. Like just after they had their permanent visa. I don't know how it is in your country, but here marriages with foreign ladies tend to last longer. In other words fewer divorces.

Of course there will always be cheaters, but that rule also applies to local girls. Single mums just looking to get their hands on your fat wallet http://datingtalk.info/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

It is well known fact that the girls from former UDDSR
look for a wealthy , well-off gentelman/mister etc.
for ripp-off.....
The sex market in former UDDSR countries is in the hands of
mafia. Notice all the girls practising prostutiton are attractive
or beautiful.
1-Mafia finances the trips of this girl to Greece/Turkey/Cyprus
2-In winter time where the cients are rare a Dating Agency
serves for this prupose : A-Photo of a beautiful girl attracts
many naive/silly guys from the west.B-After the nice
correspondence for a while the lover is invited to the....
3-Agency provides accodomation/taxi/flower service/
translation service etc. The man from the western pays
and pays...
Why not to choose a girl from your own culture/country?
Unless there is something
wrong with you,so think the
girls from the former UDDRS and a very great majority
cheat you......... http://datingtalk.info/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

[MartinUK]

Robert,
Are you suggesting the Mafia finances EVERY lady who dares to travel/holiday in Greece, Turkey & Cyprus?
Are you suggesting that in the winter time, EVERY lady in EVERY dating agency is an out-of-work hooker?
Are you suggesting that EVERY agency offers accommodation, taxi, flowers and translation?
And, are you suggesting there is something wrong with EVERY guy who, perhaps having lived away from his own country, then chooses to seek his love from such a country?

Robert, nothing personal but me thinks you have sat at home for too long and reading too many text books. Perhaps you have ventured to FSU, perhaps not done your research before travelling and speak only from your personal experience(s).

Have you actually ever travelled to somewhere like Cyprus in the summertime? I have, many times and it seems every other tourist is from FSU. According to your statement, these are ALL mafia hookers. I don't think so Robert!

You have erred because you have generalised labelling any FSU lady, sorry, any FSU pretty lady, who ventures near a dating agency or dares to take a summer holiday as a hooker when in fact your statement refers only to a minute minority of women that you will find in any nationality or country throughout the world.

[LeoN]

Robert B,
This is not a realistic scenario.Yes, there are prostitutes from FSU countries in Greece or Cyprus as well as the UK and the US.But that doesnt mean that every Russian that you meet in Greece is a prostitute or a mafia guy.
It seems that you ve been through it.You made the trip to FSU, but something went wrong.Feel free to post a trip report in this board so we can make conclusions.Share your thoughts with us, it is always good to hear a diferent voice.

[Patrick]

Robert seem's upset at something of someone.. Hey Robert!! Don't take it out on all of the other people. If you had a bad thing happen, well welcome to the club.....Thank You Patrick

[nemez]

what means uddsr? :-))

[MartinUK]

Nemez,
USSR, FSU, CIS, all much the same.

[nemez]

i have asked for uddsr. i know former ussr ;-)).

[MartinUK]

It's the same thing, D is probably something to do with Democratic.

[nemez]

;-)) do you know or not?
it is not very importend. i ask only because robert-uk knows everything about the girls in CCCP , but can not write the name of the country.

[MartinUK]

Nemez,
There's no need to be so 'picky', you asked what means udssr, as if you didn't know and I was kindly explaining that it's the same thing as USSR etc.
You're right, it's not very important bearing in mind that Robert has already exposed his extremely high level of ignorance.

guys sorry for interfiering....
I am here by chance and I am a Russian lady
but there was a sentence that I can't but comment
Eternal Rule : A nice woman never quits her country
except SOMETHING IS WRONG WITH HER
But! the opinion of some Russian girls may be, if he is so successful and kind...and...generous..and whatever they are calling themselves..,why is he looking for a girl out of his country? it's smth wrong with HIM that he can't find one....
and it's a great hint for you
take adv of it:)))
Anya
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[MartinUK]

Anya,
Welcome and please feel free to interfere any time you wish. According to 'Bob the Knob' there's something wrong with everyone except himself so the rest of us here aren't exactly shaking in our boots.
Within Europe, and including eastern FSU, we have high speed trains, low cost airlines, freedom of travel and to a high degree, the rights to live and work in foreign lands.
OK, it is a personal choice, some choose to spend their entire lives in their own back yard and some choose to venture further afield , why can't both sects live their lives as they feel comfortable and stop critising the other?

[Thunderdome]

Anya,

How dare you! This is a typical case of

It is well known fact that the girls from former USSR
look for a wealthy , well-off gentelman/mister etc.-
for ripp-off.....
The sex market in former USSR countries is in the hands of
mafia. Notice ALL the girls practising prostutiton are attractive
or beautiful.
1-Mafia finances the trips of the girls to Greece/Turkey/Cyprus
2-In winter time where the cients are rare a Dating Agency
serves for this prupose : A-Photo of a beautiful girl attracts
many naive/silly guys from the West.B-After the nice
correspondence for a while the lover is invited to the....
3-Agency provides accodomation/taxi/flower /
translation service etc. The 'client' from the West pays
and pays...
Why not to choose a girl from his own culture/country?
Unless there is something
wrong with him,so think the
girls from the former USSR and a very great majority
cheat you.........
Look at the files of the police department (Greece/Turkey/Cyprus)There
with high probability you will find what are you looking for:
Photos of deported girls caught on prostution. All of them
attractive and beautiful....
Notice: In cooperation with European Union during past
10 YEARS Turkey deported THOUSANDS of GIRLS
(Attractive and beautiful !) FROM FORMER SOVIET UNION practising prostution.
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[MartinUK]

Ah, the wanderer returns,
Based on the population of the FSU a few thousand, is as I previously said, a minute minority.
You are carefully selecting your statistics, how many toursits from FSU visit Turkey, Greece & Cyprus per annum and per annum, what percentage of those are deported?
Just have a look at the arrivals & departures boards at Larnaca airport on a summer weekend, there are flights arriving from all over FSU, are these flights really full to the brim with prostitutes?
And ..... bearing in mind you have quoted, thousands of prostitutes from FSU, would you care, if you have the knowledge, to quote how many prostitutes there have been in N. America or Western Europe over the same period?
You've less chance of meeting a prostitute in FSU than you have in your own country, depending on where you look of course!

[Thunderdome]

Robert,

my dear hooker-addict, I see you

[MartinUK]

Hey Bobby,
Have you tried Zoe yet?

http://www.geosex.nl/home_pages/html/a/d/d/addql.html

[QUOTE]It is well known fact that the girls from former USSR
look for a wealthy , well-off gentelman/mister etc.-
for ripp-off.....
The sex market in former USSR countries is in the hands of
mafia. Notice ALL the girls practising prostutiton are attractive
or beautiful.
This sounds like "The City of Sin" Las Vegas,Nev. USA
Run by the mob (mafia), and all of them girls practising prostitution are beautiful,looking to find well off cheating husbands,so they can rip them off.Oh and it is legal by law for them to do this.But then it is a free country.

mistermopar