Appearance

[Nataliya]

"Just how much physical appearance is important when choosing your partner, is there anything in particular that you'll never go for and maybe even something that you will never be able to live with?"

[LeoN]

Nice question.Each and every one of us, has a diferent answer.
I would like to be honest (as always).Physical appearence is a very importand matter for me (i m picky my self).The height/weight measurments is something that i m checking in every profile, but what really makes me happy, is a nice and kind expression of the eyes.It is a little bit difficult to explain it, but there are some expressions that i really like.They say that eyes are the windows of the soul.
I believe that most of us are not searching for a model.An average Russian girl (as far as it concerns appearence) could be accepted easily.There must be something with their DNA.
Oh, imagine this situation:you are exchanging mails and phones with a 170cm/55Kgr lady and when you meet her in the airport you find out that it was a 160cm/60kgr lady.Then you will have to have a plan B. http://datingtalk.info/non-cgi/emoticons/wow.gif

[Thunderdome]

Q
Just how much physical appearance is important when choosing your partner,
is there anything in particular that you'll never go for
and maybe even something that you will never be able to live with?

A
Just enough to make her at least attractive for me,
yeah, a lot of things in fact, but utterly stupid will do here
and blatant premeditated unfaithfulness would stop the bus.


Although that does answer your query I

[Nataliya]

Oh, imagine this situation:you are exchanging mails and phones with a 170cm/55Kgr lady and when you meet her in the airport you find out that it was a 160cm/60kgr lady.Then you will have to have a plan B. http://datingtalk.info/non-cgi/emoticons/wow.gif
Which one- 160 cm or 60 kg would scare you?!

[Nataliya]

[QUOTE= (Thunderdome @ Jan. 06 2004,22:40)]But there

[Thunderdome]

You look into a classroom through a 1-way window where 50 guys are seated, so closely packed that you only can see their faces. They cannot see you.
Which one you look at longest?

Profiles

[Nataliya]

[QUOTE= (Thunderdome @ Jan. 07 2004,00:16)]Why address a plain Jane when there

LeoN
writes:
"......Oh, imagine this situation:you are exchanging mails and phones with a 170cm/55Kgr lady and when you meet her in the airport you find out that it was a 160cm/60kgr lady.Then you will have to have a plan B. ........"

1) If the difference was that much, wouldn't you have discovered it from her picture?

2) Both could probably look good - depending.... (e.g. whether she spent her time in front of the TV or doing sport...)

3) If you like math:
Body Mass Index = weight [kg] / (height [m] * height [m])

gives a method of comparison.

55/(1.7 * 1.7) = 19.03
60/(1.6 * 1.6) = 23.43

-and none of 'them' are overweight.
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Appearance *does* matter!

The sooner he/she appears, the better!

.......................
Or, as time goes by, one might 'modify' the minimum requirements.

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[MartinUK]

I don't neccessarily see anything wrong with 160cm @ 60kg, when you get to 160cm @ 65 or 70kg, then hey, Houston we have a problem!
Of course physical appearance is the initial attraction but on a scale of 1 to 10, if you keep picking the 10's then there's a high risk that her intentions are not genuine or you're one of very many guys.
I tend to opt for the 'middle of the road ladies', you like their appearance but once you get writing you can detect if they have the right personality and intentions or not. In my opinion, these qualities by far outweigh her physical appearance.
This said, I'm currently writing with a very attractive lady from a small town of 22,000 population. We've agreed to meet with each other but we've been writing for about 2.5 months and we won't be meeting until April, 'nice and slow' as they say.
Only earlier this evening I was reading through our past letters and I detected that not even her first letter to me was canned, she has written personal letters, perhaps in the main, since day 1.
What I'm trying to say is that despite physical appearance being the initial attraction detect, to the best of your ability, the lady(s) who are serious. OK, we all learn by our mistakes and having been at this a significant amount of time I've made those mistakes, been there, done that, but I'm becoming wiser as time progresses.
To answer Nataliya's original question, a weight of let us say 65kg is a definite no-go but a nice smile and physical appearance can start the ball rolling.
Martin

[MartinUK]

Van82 is right, as time goes by one should modify those minimum requirements. As a newbie, all that time ago, I couldn't believe my luck that those significantly young and pretty females were interested by me ...... BUT THEN YOU LEARN!

[Tom]

I guess most of the guys here are wise enough not to give you a direct answer on this question, but I think I will be a little bit foolish and give you more the type of answer you are looking for! http://datingtalk.info/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif

What do I find attractive? Actually, I hate to admit it, but I do not have very strict standards! http://datingtalk.info/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif Hair color and eye color, for instance, do not matter much. Maybe I prefer Blonde or Black hair over brown, but it is hardly important. Height/weight: I am a little tall (187cm), so I can date anyone from short to tall...makes little difference to me! Maybe over about 160cm would be preferable, but hardly very important. As far as weight, I am more flexible than most other guys will admit. But I think that most men, in general, are more flexible than they will admit! I think the fetish with skinny girls is more to impress their friends, than to please themselves!
Skin tone: I think I prefer girls with a more fair complexion...but I think this is more related to my one 'hang-up' than to any actual preference for the skin-tone itself.
So what is my one hang-up? Hairy girls. I just find too much hair on a girl unattractive. That is not to say that I like my girls to shave themselves! http://datingtalk.info/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif It is not that. I had a girlfriend once who was one of those non-shavers. Not her legs...nothing. But I still found her very attractive, because the hair she DID have was so fine and soft. I just really like soft, smooth hair! So that is my fetish! A hint of a mustache or too much scraggly arm hair just really turns my off big-time. And I think that is the reason I liked fair-skinned girls, because they tend to not be very hairy.
Well, I hope I do not sound like too much of a freak! http://datingtalk.info/non-cgi/emoticons/wow.gif http://datingtalk.info/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif

[liam]

G'day I'm with Tom on this one. Hairy-girls no no no no no http://datingtalk.info/non-cgi/emoticons/rock.gif very unattractive. As for hair colour, i don't care either. Weight is a tricky one though, *whats pleasing to the eye is seldom pleasing to the touch* is a quote that i'd go along with..........(how can i say this politely?).......errrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr she just does'nt http://datingtalk.info/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif feel http://datingtalk.info/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif good. But saying that ten-ton-tessys are'nt cool either. i'm a sucker for a nice pair of legs and a short skirt though http://datingtalk.info/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif eye colour i don't care about either, or how long her fingernails are, or how ,long her hair is, or how big her feet are.

But i do have issues with russian dating sites where you can simply load in your preferences into a search engine and out pops your ideal women http://datingtalk.info/non-cgi/emoticons/wow.gif choosing a girl in the same way as you would buy a plane ticket or book a hotel room just seems plain freaky and weird.

Liam

[MartinUK]

I wouldn't describe it as a fetish for skinny girls, I quite like a few curves on a lady but I can't do the more than modestly overweight types.
Agree about the hairy types.

Tough question!

Picture: Nice smile, nice face, nice body, reasonably 'sporty' look, make-up discrete ('invisible'), nails reasonably short, hair reasonably short, 'sensible' shoes, etc.
-in short: Practical, reasonably 'low maintenance'.

Live: Face, particularly eyes, 'alive' . Can 'carry a conversation' (and say something reasonably intelligent about a wide range of topics).
Can pretend I am not boring her, with my (lack of) conversational skills.
Looks good in jeans as well as in a dress.

If it rains on her make-up she can recover without a big drama - and it does not spoil her whole day...


-And women like that are normally already 'spoken for'.

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And, when I meet "her" everything might change, because "she" is genuinely interested in me and make me 'feel good' when we are together. (But it will take a very clever woman to make me feel charming, intelligent, and 'her hero'!!)

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[LeoN]

Van, thanx for the comments.But,
I never ask for hot photos, so there is still a mystery about her appearence, plus, what really bothers me in that situation, is lying.

[Thunderdome]

Yeah, I think I got it. http://datingtalk.info/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif
That same classroom now filled with females

[Nataliya]

Everyone- thanks for participation! Tom, thanks for jump-starting the "list of revelations"!

[Tom]

I agree, in general, with everone elses posts.

[liam]

Cool question Tom but not one thats easily answered. From my perspective the girls here in small-town NZ will go for just about anything http://datingtalk.info/non-cgi/emoticons/laugh.gif http://datingtalk.info/non-cgi/emoticons/laugh.gif probably the guys who do best would be sorta the rough surfer type (me http://datingtalk.info/non-cgi/emoticons/wow.gif ) or rough biker type i know exactly what you mean by *pretty boy* and in wellington/auckland that look would go down real well with the ladies, but here, you'd just get queer-bashed real quick. I guess thats the same everywhere, where i live only has a population of 35.000, everyones pretty much *blue collar* working class. Europe though is way way way more stylish than nz, in fact when i first arrived here 7 years ago i used to have a big laugh at the way my colonial cousins dressed, but soon i realised that the old adage of *when in rome..........* really does mean something

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[Thunderdome]

Nata,

Reading your post I realized I forgot to mention teeth. Right they are, a nice white smile attracts, but for some reason I don

Van, thanx for the comments.But,
I never ask for hot photos, so there is still a mystery about her appearence, plus, what really bothers me in that situation, is lying.
1) Hot photos before we have met is a put off.

2) Hot photos after we have met? No, I don't think so either!
(besides there is always the risk that a) it was an impulse and she regrets it b) the wrong people find them....)

No, I definitely was not talking about Hot Photos

[QUOTE= (Thunderdome @ Jan. 08 2004,16:34)]Nata,

...
...
But especially Van will be pleased with the answers you got I

-Now body-piercing and tattoos have been brought into the discussion:
NO

I don't like them for aesthetic reasons (I think they look vulgar, but that is a personal opinion, of course)

They are an unnecessary risk factor. Both: re. infected instruments. Rings here and there: -getting caught on clothing, etc.

I guess I have to accept ear-rings....


And now to the question about the Former Sovjet Union:
Are body-piercing and tattos common there?

[Nataliya]

[QUOTE= (Thunderdome @ Jan. 08 2004,16:34)]But your financial query got you a surprise eh? Shoo, it just might tell us more about you then? http://datingtalk.info/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif

Have you ever thought of turning that around however? Maybe some guys are looking for a rich woman, or someone who can work, and by working I mean earn a substantial income, either to supplement their own or to give them less worries, ultimately they may want to stop even. I

[Nataliya]

[QUOTE= (Tom @ Jan. 08 2004,04:14)]But that leads to a question that I have.

[Nataliya]

And now to the question about the Former Sovjet Union:
Are body-piercing and tattos common there?
It wasn't 5 years ago, but now it is getting very popular. One thing for sure- I never seen in FSU so many peircings and in such unusual places as for example in UK. Belly button peircing is very popular in FSU. I think it looks really cute on the nice firm belly that you can show off, quite the opposite on a flabby one. I guess you just have to use common sense and check it in the mirror before hand if it looks good- you can always take it off if you need to. Facial piercing is another story, don't see anything cute in there, but anyway- that can be taking off easy as well.

Tattoo- when done professionally and with taste and meaning- could also look very nice, depends on design and place. From what I see in FSU- it's getting popular too among young people. There's no health risks if you do it in licensed professional place- they have disposable needles that he's going to open and then discard in front of you, disposable gloves, medical bandages and antiseptics. If people go to amateurs and don't care about hygiene- it's their problems, it shouldn't be this way, just plain stupid.

See, Van, one more question for your future bride http://datingtalk.info/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif you probably should write them all down. http://datingtalk.info/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif

What other men think about piercing and tattoos??

[LeoN]

Now, an other question that has to do with FSU ladies:Do they like a man's hairy chests?

[Thunderdome]

Leon,

let this expert tell you about hairs on one's chest.

It depends where they live, and as you know 'Russia', I presume you mean the entire FSU, is a big place.
You see, there are very warm regions and very cold one's, and it is only logical that hence it depends on where they live.
Women in very warm area's obviously detest them whilst those in the colder regions adore them. I mean, surely you also don't wear woolen sweaters when visiting the Bahama's?
So - if you've got lots Siberia's your place, and if zilch then look in Turkmenistan. If you're average you've got more to choose from which, according Gauss, is logical.

You see, it's all easy. You want me to explain any other clever questions? http://datingtalk.info/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

[Thunderdome]

Nataliya,

[Nataliya]

[QUOTE= (Thunderdome @ Jan. 09 2004,00:04)]Do you think it normal for the man to be the provider of a family? I mean, after all it IS the standard, sort-of, in the west. Men not only accept that but also take pride in it, one could say that they are bred, educated, indoctrinated, raised -whatever the word

[Nataliya]

Now, an other question that has to do with FSU ladies:Do they like a man's hairy chests?
Don't know how serious your question is, but I'll answer it anyway, no funny smiley- I take it serious.

I assume Thunder made a joke, cause only idiot would think that it depends on the weather. http://datingtalk.info/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif

I'd say it depends on each individual- some do, some don't, but I never heard in FSU that women find men

[Tom]

[QUOTE= (Nataliya @ Jan. 08 2004,20:37)]To make sure that we're talking about the same translation of "manly man", I'll give you visual example of what I consider one, kind of irresistible

[Nataliya]

I wonder why are you still single. http://datingtalk.info/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif You'd have quite a success in Spain, that's for sure and I see why you won't have any problems with FSU ladies as well. http://datingtalk.info/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif http://datingtalk.info/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

[LeoN]

Thank you Nataliya.You brought my moral back to it's natural height.

[Thunderdome]

Nata,

You also have been raised and educated, and inevitably you were exposed to, still are in fact, things that are regarded as normal, i.e.

[Nataliya]

[QUOTE= (Thunderdome @ Jan. 09 2004,19:56)]Women getting cold need warmth and excersise, and those already getting warm don

[Tom]

[QUOTE= (Thunderdome @ Jan. 09 2004,19:56)]Yoo Tom, I though manly men had to have big

[Thunderdome]

Hey Tom,

then I'd rather shut up about me having all kinds of compensating goodies, even had operations in my life already as well, with scars to prove them.
If I read your post well I should keep women at a fair distance and approach them only in the dark I suppose? http://datingtalk.info/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif
Oh, and I caught some Largemouth's, and - dare I say it - I hooked them with a slimey worm. Made my weekend! http://datingtalk.info/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif

My point WAS proven Nata, until I read the 's'. They call that displexed, no, dixlect.., no, diceless eh, dixless nah, people who read not well I think - ah, hasty readers? http://datingtalk.info/non-cgi/emoticons/laugh.gif
Hell Nata, now my whole weekend turns fishy... http://datingtalk.info/non-cgi/emoticons/cool.gif

[Tom]

Oh, and I caught some Largemouth's, and - dare I say it - I hooked them with a slimey worm. Made my weekend! http://datingtalk.info/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif
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[nemez]

I live and work with these people almost every day of my life, I know they mean it.
so do you believe girls (20 years old) who preffer men up to 45? ;)))

[Nataliya]

I live and work with these people almost every day of my life, I know they mean it.
so do you believe girls (20 years old) who preffer men up to 45? ;)))
Actually this phrase was used in another contest.

To answer your question- no, I don

[nemez]

Do you believe in that?
koneshno ;) (shutka)

Re.: Appearance:

-from a Profile:
"...........To my mind the most important traits of a man are decency, kindness, generosity, but his appearance is not the main thing. The dearly loved man is always handsome........."

The dearly loved man is always handsome.
- very well said.

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