Why do FSU women look for foreign husbands?

[Jon]

Ok, here's the opportunity for FSU women to tell us men why they are on the internet looking for a husband. Some of the poll questions are from personal experience. I would be interested to know just what is it that makes women from the FSU seek a man from another country, or maybe they really don't?

[katya]

</span>[QUOTE= (Jon @ Oct. 29 2002,09:09)]Ok, here's the opportunity for FSU women to tell us men why they are on the internet looking for a husband.

[Jon]

Katya,

I'm not sure that just women from Russia dream of finding their prince in another country and living the fairytale life. I have a daughter who dreamt this also, but that was before she became a young woman and realized the reality of life!

There really are no Prince Charming's waiting to take you away from a dreary life. Only men exist in real life. Men from your country are royality if it is possible to find that special someone. Don't worry about what life is like today, think of tomorrow and a better place -- make it happen where ever you choose to live.

I always tell my FSU women friends that they dream of a better life, but it is only possible when they are happy where they are first. If they are not happy then they most likely won't be happy in another country.

Cheers,

Jon

[Vicky]

True, John,
attitude to life decides.

[iceman7311979]

Wow good post Jon.

I found this after I made a similar poll, lol. Guess I should look harder for them huh.

Jon you sound very very wise.

Jon, I see you are stupid!!!
Realy!
Because I see that you know first very bad about Turkey and second you are dont know that many many many man from USA,Europe looking for woman from Russia... and just 20% of them realy want wife... most of the man looking just for sex!
Not more!
Jon just see life like real and not say to people that you are a people who know everythink...

[katya]

</span>[QUOTE= (Jon @ Oct. 30 2002,13:52)]Katya,

I'm not sure that just women from Russia dream of finding their prince in another country and living the fairytale life.

[Vicky]

</span>[QUOTE= (Guest @ Nov. 02 2002,21:59)]Jon, I see you are stupid!!!
Realy!
Because I see that you know first very bad about Turkey and second you are dont know that many many many

[iceman7311979]

</span>[QUOTE= (Guest @ Nov. 02 2002,21:59)]Jon, I see you are stupid!!!
Realy!
Because I see that you know first very bad about Turkey and second you are dont know that many many many

[Jon]

Dear Olgitka&Olesya,

I may be stupid, but it's only because I think that men from any country should treat women with respect and dignity.

I may be stupid because I don't believe that asking a women you don't know for sex is proper.

I may be stupid because I believe that visitors to my country should be treated as guests and should leave with warm feelings.

I may be stupid because I don't have sex on the first date or sometimes for several months after meeting a woman. This includes my current and former FSU girlfriends.

I may be stupid because I personally believe that any man who searches for a wife should be fair, honest, trustworthy, and truthful. That this search should be open and not fraught with deception and deceit. Men should not seek a woman just for sex or personal graditude.

I am stupid to offend a country's men when it is only those few hundred or thousands I've encounted who show little or no respect toward the women I am with.

I am stupid to believe that my opinions are worthy of others on this site.

I don't offer an absolute to life or love. I'm not here to search for love, just as an observer and occassionally assist the men and women with tough questions.

I can't always express anger properly and ask that those who are insulted to understand the humility that I've endured. Try to walk, not in my shoes, but the woman I brought to Turkey and then say "Jon is stupid for bringing me here!".

So, I am stupid, but I've also learned a valuable lesson. I've learned how it must feel for a woman to know disrespect and dishonor. I learned what it must feel like to have men only want you for sex. I was there to witness what women must feel like when someone has no interest in them as a human, but simply for discreet sexual satisfaction.

I am stupid, but I'm a much wiser for my experiences.

Jon

[iceman7311979]

I wouldn't let anyone here get you down Jon. You seem like a kindred spirit.

To me women are one of the best blessings God have given to men.

They make up for what we lack. In a way a man in nothing without a woman to stand by his side.

Some men forget this very easily, and lose out for it. This is why women assume things like, men only want sex.

Keep on being a Gentleman and remember if our actions change one woman's mind set about a man then it was all worth it.

Not so Disgruntled
Matt

</span>[QUOTE= (Jon @ Nov. 03 2002,10:13)]Dear Olgitka&Olesya,

I may be stupid, but it's only because I think that men from any country should treat women with respect and dignity.

Can we get past this "mudslinging". Everyome says things they don't mean. But I would like to get on topic please. Or at least get on benevolent train of thought. I found this girl from Astralkan or some place like that. Does anyone know where this place is? I found this gem Sveta, and really adore-to the point where it hurts. She want to be with me in the worst way. The problem is, in the past I have been hurt and she wants me to expedite things a little. Her intentions are true. I know that she loves me but I can only take baby steps. I am very cautious. But I am scared of losing her if my decisions are not quick enough. Do you think that she would understand me tepid response to a lot of our decisions.

To Matt, keep treating a woman like a lady. It can never go wrong. Women are creatures that should be blessed.

[Jon]

Hello Geezer Butler,

Sorry that you can't appreciate what I was communicating. It's not one man in Istanbul, but hundreds of men in Turkey that made similar remarks. It's not one man who showed absolutely no respect for Western women, but hundreds of men we encountered who made similar remarks.

I can't help it if you believe that it's acceptable to tell a woman she has a nice ass, but I think that's crude behavior. If just one guy said this, I'd just blow it off as one bad apple and go on.

This wasn't the case as I'll quote a Canadian who happened to be in Alanya as the same time we were:

"Jon
I hear you ...the Turk men are always trying to hit on any woman that is
beautiful and sexy ..I had been there before and so had a good idea of
what was up ...
I basically just had the "eat your heart out buddy " attitude ..
Of course when they try to feel up your lady then you have to deal w/ it"

So, it's not just me, but a Canadian who had the same experience. His attitude toward the way Turkish men treat western women is similar to mine.

As for hearing myself talk, its not important what I think or say but my actions. I can wake up each morning and know that my girlfriend, women friends, and acquaintances respect me for treating them with dignity and respect. I don't have a problem if you believe that my ego gets in the way of being objective. That's not my problem. I will always believe that what I say may be of some help to others who want to know about my previous experiences. It just so happens that both trips to Turkey were demeaning to myself and the women I was with.

So that's my opinion and until someone from Turkey can explain why we were treated so poorly, why these women had to be subjected to the constant harrasment, I won't think of Turkish men differently.

As for insulting Turkish men. I already said that it was a mistake to accuse the whole society for what was obviously just the men when encountered. I would have enjoyed the opportunity to have a nice conversation with some Turks who didn't start out the topic about "is my girlfriend available?".

Jon

[olivertwist]

Dear Jon

If you have had some fights in my country.
I said other part of this forum . i am sorry
And EXCUSE for my Country

But i see you need some information about turkey.
i wrote to you some answers in my topic.

I believe worlds must be goes up to Nice place..

With my best wishes

Can

[Jon]

Dear Can,

I had no fights because that's not the proper thing to do. I didn't have any reason to act and behave inappopriately. I let the women deal with some of it. I am so proud of them because they handle each situation correctly. We didn't stoop to that level and start arguing or yelling at people.

We were guests in your country and behaved accordingly. We kept our mouths shut and just ignored the remarks and offers of sex. I don't need to piss and moan because some guy said something to my girlfriend. I'm not insecure and am afraid that she'll run off with him. My girlfriend is a Ukrainian woman and can take care of herself. She knew what to say and when not to say anything. I restrained myself and tried to remember where I was.

Don't worry about my feelings. I was more concerned about the women because it was our chance to be together and learn about each other. I learned a great deal about these women from my experiences in Turkey. I may not like what happened, but it gave me some insights into how these women behaved in difficult situations.

I don't have any plans on returning in the near future. I think that after two visits it was enough for me. My girlfriend doesn't want to return also and I can understand why.

CAN, I hope you find happiness and success in the future. I know you have the best intentions and will treat women from the FSU or anywhere with respect and dignity. I am saddened that my experiences weren't pleasant and wished to have met you first. I sincerely believe that you are a decent man and I wish the best for you.

Take care,

Jon

[olivertwist]

Dear JON

i am again EXCUSE for it..

but you have some wrong like you says same story as PARROT..
sorry to say to you parrot .. but it is..
also you hidden some details about your trip and your difficulties in turkey.

okay let we forget it.

I HAVE ONE QUESTION FOR YOU!!!!!!!!!

if you have a Ukranian girlfriend............

WHY you are here?

pajalusto explain me....

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Thank you

Can

[katya]

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