Oksana 116392

[Ghostvoice]

Oksana 116392 from Lugansk is a scammer. She has written in her advertisement that she speaks English and that she is a shop assistant. She wanted that I write her nearly every day and she answered me nearly every day at the morning. Then she told me that she write the letters from an Internet cafe and that she cannot speak English. So she asked me if I can help her with money for the translation.

[MartinUK]

Most of the scammers in Lugansk claim to use the services of a lady who supposedly charges approx $5 a letter.
Not sure how you can pay for translation at an internet cafe, they, as well as us, know of the online translators that whilst not perfect, are free of charge.

[corneo]

Something else to keep in mind. Normal pay is $100.00 a month. So if you paid for your letter to be translated, it would mean you could only get 20 letters done.

The math just doesn't work does it?

[Ghostvoice]

Thank you very much for your answers Martin and corneo! I ask myself how it can be possible that someone want 5 Dollar, if the normal income in a country is 50-70 Dollars a month. I think that I must have very much luck in such a situation to earn money with my job, if I am only a translator and my price is so high, Martin. Or maybe Oksana is a millionaire, but why she ask for money? And I have never seen an Internet Cafe on this earth, which have also translators there. Maybe the Ukraine is more progressive than Germany, but I was also one time in the Ukraine (it was in Kiev) and I have not seen such an Internet Cafe there. But maybe it is possible in Lugansk. And how can a normal ukrainian woman pay 100 Dollars for 20 translations corneo? Do you have an idea how it can be possible? I have gotten 7 letters from Oksana in the last 2 weeks, and she was every morning there as a shop assisistant, who have not so much money. How was it possible by such a price and by such a little income of her and by her job? Normally a shop assistance must work at this time. And why it is not also possible in the future?
Her last letter, when I have confronted her with this facts was: "Thank you for your response. It is very pitty you think this way because I was honest with you. But it is your choise of course. I never lied to you but I see there is no reason to explaine you something as you think you know everything for yourself. Ok. wish you good luck".
Yes, I believe you everything Oksana! Also that you wanted to take your life. But I only don't understand why you have never answered me on my questions and why you have never written me your address when I have asked you about it.

[MartinUK]

Ghostvoice,
Lugansk is famous. I'm not currently looking for a lady but that doesn't stop me broesing, just recently a lot of pretty women have been appearing from places in Ukraine I have never heard of but when I look at my interactive world map these are villages and towns just outside Lugansk. The gangsters who operate these ladies realise we are wise to them and are trying another deceptive trick.
As Corneo pointed out and I've had these ladies ask for money in the past, they say they earn $50 a month but have entered into a correspondence whereas an exchange of letters may cost $10. It's quite obvious, and even if they write with only one guy, they can only afford to write for a little over one week before they have to cease correspondence.
Would we go and buy an expensive car whereas we know we can only afford to pay the first installment realising that if we didn't keep up with the installments the car would be repossessed thus what we had paid would be lost money?
I've had ladies from free personals etc. who claim they only write with me but it is known that ladies on such a site may receive hundreds of responses. If only a handful of these guys start paying for letters, often 'canned' letters, well as Corneo would put it, that's when the maths begin to work out!

[mary]

Something else to keep in mind. Normal pay is $100.00 a month. So if you paid for your letter to be translated, it would mean you could only get 20 letters done.
The math just doesn't work does it?
And now try to solve the riddle:
If Oksana is payed $100 a month and she
knows English 50/50, she gives 50 per cent of
letters she receives to her translater not to pay her for translating letters. For eg. translater translates her letters one by one ( russian exchange- we call that barter) How many letters you could get from Oksana?
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[mary]

She wanted that I write her nearly every day
...So she asked me if I can help her with money for the translation.
Yes, she is a scammer. Don't write her letter every day and she will find another guy for herself who will write or speak to her every day . You ?
It would be better if you write on this site and tell us about other women-scammers

Don't help with money her , try to find another girl in FUSSR who doesn't need money. It can be a bit difficult to do , because usually these women are keen on career, business , and as a rule have a lover . They have money for the translation, but they have not time to write big romantic letters which could be translated http://datingtalk.info/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

[liam]

http://datingtalk.info/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif i am toast http://datingtalk.info/non-cgi/emoticons/mad.gif

L

[Thunderdome]

C'mon Liam, tell us - and who's the Marmelade? http://datingtalk.info/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif

Re.
"Money for translation"
?

1) Did 'he' know that 'she' spoke only Russian?

2) Did 'she' over-estimate her English?

3) Do agencies intercept letters and translate them - even if it is not necessary?


-Ideally, 'he' and 'she' should communicate directly!
(and a translation is never totally 'right')

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[mary]

-Ideally, 'he' and 'she' should communicate directly!
(and a translation is never totally 'right')
I don't agree with you.

FSU women are very spirited,energetic and vigorous.
When they write letters themself they do it badly.

Why ? Because as usual they write what they think.
But why foreigners are looking for FSU women ?
They dream to find a girl who is speaking what they want to hear.

In this case a translator is a good variant to extinguish the fire of her emotions, poor man thinks that he has met the woman of his dream. He comes here - and gets into a mouse-trap http://datingtalk.info/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

The second reason - my computer is mined.

I want to try the service of agencies and translators to date someone ...

[Kasian]

I want to try the service of agencies and translators to date someone ...


Mary why don't you send me an email message or a personal message? Who knows I might like you. I would like to know more about who this lady called Mary is.

As for translation services, I would never trust a person who had all their letter translated. I would never know if she was real or was the translator tweaking what was said in the letters. You know adding and smoothing things over. Maybe leaving things out of the letter. You can have thing translated for free on the internet - not perfect.

BTW, it costs nothing to get a program that can tace your ip address. They even come free with some systems or can be downloaded for free.

[Thunderdome]

Mary,

"my computer is mined"

Funny, my computer is mine.
Regarding that mousetrap, they're all the same - only the bait differs. A lion's trap is substantially different though.

"I want to try the service of agencies and translators to date someone"
I want the service of an agent to interrogate someone on a trial date, so there's hope for the future http://datingtalk.info/non-cgi/emoticons/cool.gif

[mary]

[QUOTE= (Kasian @ Mar. 26 2004,22:18)]Mary why don't you send me an email message or a personal message?

[mary]

I want the service of an agent to interrogate someone on a trial date
Thunderdome,

In the past it was thought, and to a certain extent still is,
that only those who are emotionaly unstable could be hypnotized.
It was also believed that these people when they regained their emotional stability would no longer be hypnotizable. Such observations were based on only a few cases and failed to realize that when a patient was sick he tended to be dependent.

Don't use a sick agent - he will be hypnotized by a suspected person http://datingtalk.info/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

[Thunderdome]

You see Mary,

you've changed personalities again http://datingtalk.info/non-cgi/emoticons/sad.gif

[Thunderdome]

But learn from him - good English http://datingtalk.info/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

[Kasian]

[QUOTE= ]I have several email-boxes.They are free of charge too.
A man broke into them and reads all my emails.

If you send a message to me, he will read and delete it,
or answer to you on my behalf...You might like each other...

[Thunderdome]

Mary,

get yourself a free firewall from Zonealarms, downloadable from

http://download.com.com/3000-2092-10264526.html

Your pc is a target now with all your addresses made public, and I'd hate to think of the amount of spam you're getting. This program is surprisingly effective in fending off intrusions and allows you to control who's talking.

A good anti-virus program, AGV, also free, you'll get from

http://www.grisoft.com/us/us_index.php

Just scan & update frequently.

Be careful with post with smileys, and never allow a confirmation of receipt of mail to be sent.
So - enjoy your mail, I do too http://datingtalk.info/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif

[Kasian]

Actually the firewall from sygate (http://www.sygate.com/ I think) is better and much more imformative.

[Thunderdome]

Kasian,

"better and much more imformative"

All you mention ZA does except the pop-ups. But eh, how shall I say this in a polite way, pop-ups are, eh, common with, ah, what was it now, visually stimulating site's, and I doubt Mary's surfing thorny tsites? http://datingtalk.info/non-cgi/emoticons/cool.gif

Never mind, there's loadsa stuff out there. Linux free? Heard a lot of good things about it, this is the first bad one http://datingtalk.info/non-cgi/emoticons/rock.gif

[Kasian]

All you mention ZA does except the pop-ups.

Thuderdome,

You might be right.

[Kasian]

Mary said, "I am a liar and I am a scammer.
I might use translating service just now... I might scam you in the future...
"


Mary, I meet a few strippers at rin.ru, is a scammer like a stripper?

[mary]

[QUOTE= (Kasian @ Mar. 27 2004,07:33)]

[mary]

[QUOTE= (Thunderdome @ Mar. 27 2004,13:24)]get yourself a free firewall from Zonealarms, downloadable from

Just scan & update frequently.

...- enjoy your mail, I do too

[Kasian]

Mary first of all, I think that you should reinstall your Windows first to remove any spy ware on your computer.

-Ideally, 'he' and 'she' should communicate directly!
(and a translation is never totally 'right')
I don't agree with you.

FSU women are very spirited,energetic and vigorous.
When they write letters themself they do it badly.

Why ? Because as usual they write what they think.
.
.
.................
1 You don't agree? You think that translations are always 'right'.?

2 You think that: "...FSU women are very spirited,energetic and vigorous...." I take your word for it

3 Your statement about their letter-writing is what I would call "a broad, sweeping statement". (does it *really* apply to ALL?)

4 Writing what they think is preferable in this context. It is sometimes called honesty. Also: It is preferable over writing without thinking!

[mary]

[QUOTE= (Kasian @ Mar. 28 2004,20:47)]Mary first of all, I think that you should reinstall your Windows first to remove any spy ware on your computer.

[Thunderdome]

Hey, I see the real Mary is back http://datingtalk.info/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif

Although there seems to exist some selectivity in your operating system,
wanting frequent downloads from a fire attach me to you for updating scans,
it also seems to require urgent maintenance when you're drinking beer.
Unclear is if the prior visit to the restaurant has caused the need for this beverage,
but certain is that either or effects a craving for snail-mail - very slow but reliable post -
preferred to e-mail - very quick with possible dangerous content.
Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm,

I missed you
TD http://datingtalk.info/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif http://datingtalk.info/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif http://datingtalk.info/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

[mary]

I'm waiting for Andrea nowadays.
Soon he will be here.
We will play tenis and drink beer.

Honestly, I wanted to visit him in Italy.
But he said that he has serious intentions to me.
He want to meet my parents,have a large meal with them, learn my job, meet my friends... Moldova's seeing places
and other local events. Then he will go to Italy back and
will think if I am eligible to visit his place in Italy.

While he will be thinking about, I will wait for Enrike.
Enrike lives in Spain.
Honestly, I wanted to visit him in Spain this summer.
But he said that he has serious intentions to me.
He want to meet my parents,have a large meal with them, learn my job, meet my friends... Moldova's seeing places
and other local events. Then he will go to Spain back and
will think if I am eligible to visit his place in Spain.

Then I will wait for John. He lives in Britain....
And in this way all spring and summer...
Hard holydays....
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...
.
.
And in this way all spring and summer...
Hard holydays....
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UN-HOLY

and perhaps 'hard' too
and are we talking about the 'days' only?
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[mary]

and perhaps 'hard' too
and are we talking about the 'days' only?
We are talking about hard holly scammer's job http://datingtalk.info/non-cgi/emoticons/rock.gif

and perhaps 'hard' too
and are we talking about the 'days' only?
We are talking about hard holly scammer's job http://datingtalk.info/non-cgi/emoticons/rock.gif
"...holly scammer..."

was probably a 'typo'
-else, to be pedantic:

holly
/'holee/
noun, plural hollies.
1. any of the trees or shrubs of the genus Ilex, especially those species having glossy, spiny-edged leaves and small, whitish flowers succeeded by bright red berries.
2. the foliage and berries, much used for decoration, especially during the Christmas season.
[ME holig, holi, OE holegn (with loss of -n); akin to D hulst, G Hulst, F houx, Welsh celyn]

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Most of the scammers in Lugansk
How come that you know so much about Lugansk ?
You claim you're from UK ?
EH ? Good fellow ?

[MartinUK]

Dear Unregistered,

If you wish to quote then please quote sentence in the context it was intended:

Most of the scammers in Lugansk claim to use the services of a lady

Reply 1: Have you ever written to a lady in Lugansk?

Reply 2: How many ladies in Lugansk have you written to?

Reply 3: How many of these ladies asked for excessive correspondence expenses?

Reply 4: Have you ever dared to read and educate yourself on various websites?

Reply 5: Have you ever travelled to Ukraine?

Reply 6: Have you spoken with Ukrainian people about scammers and the city of Lugansk in particular?

Reply 7: Just perhaps UK is an abbreviation for UKraine!

Reply 8: Why don't you register?

Martin,

refer my other posting.
You seem to be the target lately of the unregistered one's.
Want the dome's advice?
Ignore any unregistered one, as flat as I ignored you, sure you'll remember.

TD

[Nataliya]

I wonder if anyone remembers what this thread is all about http://datingtalk.info/non-cgi/emoticons/rock.gif It has started with Oksana- the scammer from Lugansk, but if someone comes to look for the info about this- he'll find no real information and a lot of "personal fights". Anyone is still interested in this thread on the subject?

[MartinUK]

Nataliya,
Perhaps a step in the right direction would be to fordid those unregistered from posting.

Thunderdome,
I hear what you're saying.

[Thunderdome]

M,

good.



N,

who the hell is Oksana? http://datingtalk.info/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif

[MartinUK]

Hey,
Anyone here ever been to Zaporozhye in Ukraine (Mexican brothel owners excluded) and got anything to say about it.
I might be going there from Odessa on Friday of this week, if I go I'll be looking for an apartment in Zaporozhye also, anyone got any tips?

Thanking you
Senior Crony

Oksana 116392 from Lugansk is a scammer. She has written in her advertisement that she speaks English and that she is a shop assistant. She wanted that I write her nearly every day and she answered me nearly every day at the morning. Then she told me that she write the letters from an Internet cafe and that she cannot speak English. So she asked me if I can help her with money for the translation.
Actually
there are a few different issues

1 Oksana
2 English - to speak it or not/information in a profile
3 Internet cafe - how they work there
4 Translation
5 Money for translation

-Not to mention how one reacts to surprises...
(personally I do not like them except under special circumstances)

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[mary]

It has started with Oksana- the scammer from Lugansk, but if someone comes to look for the info about this- he'll find no real information and a lot of "personal fights". Anyone is still interested in this thread on the subject?
Yeah. I'm interested. Very informative subject.
I have to tell you that Moldova is a motherland of
FSU scammers. I know Oksana.I taught her here in Moldova. Then she went to Lugansk .

By the way, did MartinUK say the name of his lady from Zaporozhye in Ukraine? Probably she is my former pupil too http://datingtalk.info/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif http://datingtalk.info/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif http://datingtalk.info/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif

[Nataliya]

I have to tell you that Moldova is a motherland of
FSU scammers.
Really?!! I thought it was Lugansk, I've heard so much about scammers from there on this site, looks like this city is an " evil's nest" http://datingtalk.info/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

[mary]

[QUOTE= (Nataliya @ April 11 2004,03:41)]Really?!! I thought it was Lugansk, I've heard so much about scammers from there on this site, looks like this city is an " evil's nest"

Really?!! I thought it was Lugansk, I've heard so much about scammers from there on this site, looks like this city is an " evil's nest" http://datingtalk.info/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif
The nest is situated in Moldova. There are my cuckoos in Lugansk http://datingtalk.info/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif
Cuckoo
being the operative word....
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[mary]

[QUOTE= (mary @ April 09 2004,21:27)]By the way, did MartinUK say the name of his lady from

[MartinUK]

Dear Mary,
How one person can be so blissfully ignorant and stupid as you seem to be should be beyond me, however it isn't having read your previous posts, I have therefore accepted your ignorance and stupidity.
And, if you think I am going to be as equally stupid and post information regarding my personal relationship, well you're even more stupid than I could have imagined.

[mary]

Dear Mary,
How one person can be so blissfully ignorant and stupid
Martin,

don't be a fool. her name is Oksana, isn't it ? http://datingtalk.info/non-cgi/emoticons/cool.gif

[MartinUK]

Niet

[Nataliya]

Hello Martin,

Welcome back!

I see you've already learnt some Russian http://datingtalk.info/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif

[MartinUK]

Hi Nataliya,
I've had a basic knowledge of Russian for a number of years, on Saturday had a conversation (of sorts) with the lady's mother and she doesn't speak a word of English.

And I can even now say (having been there) Dniepropetrovsk (if that's how you spell it!) and I've been trying to get my tongue around that one for years but on this occassion, I had a good teacher!

[mary]

I've been trying to get my tongue around that one ... I had a good teacher!
MartinUk is absent http://datingtalk.info/non-cgi/emoticons/rock.gif Probably something wrong with his tongue http://datingtalk.info/non-cgi/emoticons/rock.gif or something wrong with his titcher http://datingtalk.info/non-cgi/emoticons/rock.gif Hope, soon he will be there with both of them http://datingtalk.info/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

[GhostOfTallToad]

Hmmmmmmmm? You are not looking for a lady Marty? Hell you haven't met you woman yet, you are just going right? Oh by the way on Fiance.com on December you said you were still looking. So what's the story and who is the real liar on these forums


Remember your chant

Toad is a liar
Toad is a liar
Toad is a liar.

[Thunderdome]

Remembering that chant remember too he always was scared of GLTT.
Still is surely, you better be a Ghost ;)