Questions about Eastern women VS Western

[alittleoff]

Howdy all,

Ive got a couple of questions about Eastern women, actually a lot of questions perhaps some of you would be kind enough to answer.

First let me set this up from my prespective, I am 32, I am decent looking, fit, good job, nice cars, all that crap. I have however well been divorced, TWICE ! Ive never had any problems, or what I would call problems with women, I can get a date anytime I want and women do seem to fall for me, AT FIRST ! I have dated probably 50 or so women since High School and all but a few ended on good terms, I have even dated a few more than once or twice (read both wives http://datingtalk.info/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif , theres the catch, I dont want to sound like Im full off myself Im not, there is obviously either A)Something wrong with me, or B)Something wrong with the women I go out with/marry . I being the eternal optimist preffer the latter and am willing to give it another shot, a couple of friends suggested, jokingly they were going to get me a "Mail Order" bride from Russia for Christmas. I know the "Mail Order" thing is crap but, I started thinking about it I knew several Eastern European girls when I was in school and looking back they were sure I was nuts but beyond that had a very nice and pleasant personality I really haven seen elsewhere. I also saw this growing up as half my family is eastern european in descent.

Perhaps you could help me with this and will I experience similar problems with Russian/Eastern european women ? I have several expensive hobbies, I race motorcycles and cars, I have raced motorcycles since I was a kid and it is very important to me I gave it up for a brief period in my first marriage and I was Horribly miserable, its just part of who I am. But my hobbies have become issues in BOTH my previous marriages. Asking my exes what the big deal was, very simply they wanted my time ALL to themselves, period, my second wife even got jelous of the time I spent with my son from the first marriage, she finaly realized it and got a grip, but I MUST be a MAGNET for needy women or something , odd thing is they were the exact opposite before I married them. I am a family man and have 2 boys from my previuos marriages although they dont live with me, I spend my days workign, my nights with my family and half of my weekends doing my own thing, Nuff ranting..... Here is what I want to know.

Are Russian women independent or needy or somewhere pleasantly in between ?

I have women friends , are Russian women as jelous of this type of friendship as western women ? I have heard they are even more so, is this true ?

Are children from previous marriages a problem ? Even if they dont live with me/us ? I do want to have more children, and it seems EVERY ad I read the women say they want the same , is this typically true or is it something they think we want to hear ?

What exactly are "Bad Habbits"

[Tom]

Hey,
I'll give you a quick answer.
I know a few guys who have married Russian/Ukranian girls. Of course they are all different, but I can make a few generalisations.
First, 'needy.' I don't know if 'needy' is the right word...I would say they are 'demanding.' You draw your own conclusions! http://datingtalk.info/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif
Second, jealous. Yes. Wild eyed, crazy jealous. I am not kidding http://datingtalk.info/non-cgi/emoticons/wow.gif If you are another woman and you get near her man, you better watch out.
Last, living in the country. All the ones I know married guys who live in the country...much further out than you. The girls do not like it. But they deal with it. But I know the guys are getting constant grief about 'when are we moving to the city?' To the women's credit, they stick with their men (so far) rather than simply running off...but they have definite ideas about what they want and the guys get no rest untill they deliver (see 'Demanding' above.)
This may not be what you wanted to hear, but it is the truth from what I have seen.

Tom

[corneo]

"Are Russian women independent or needy or somewhere pleasantly in between ? "
They will lean on you a lot. They're in a new country, lost, lonely .. think about it.

"I have women friends , are Russian women as jealous of this type of friendship as western women ? I have heard they are even more so, is this true ?"
The men in Russia cheat on there wives. They expect it from the men. That's why they are single now. So I would say, yes, jealous

"Are children from previous marriages a problem"
Not from what I have read they are not. But maybe a problem

"What exactly are "Bad Habbit""
Cheating on them, not working, drunks, losers!

" read often that "Travel" is posted in almost all ads as well"
no idea on this one

"cosmopolitan lifestyle, big city bright lights."
Most live a simple life, where you live is not a problem, but they need to learn and lets face facts. How much can they learn about America where you live?

"photos"
They want a "what you see is what you get". Nice pictures are good to a point, but hey, show me what you look like when you get up in the morning.

"I dont want a "hanger on" I want a real partner and equal"
Why don't you move to Russia and be independent. Not easy, what you are asking is not possible. They need to learn things here, if you don't have the time to work with them, you are wasting money and everybody's time.

[liam]

So i take it you've stopped your search for a russian girl Tom http://datingtalk.info/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif Tell it how it is buddy! http://datingtalk.info/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif what a shame theres no russian girls posting here anymore, there response would be a good laugh http://datingtalk.info/non-cgi/emoticons/wow.gif

Chris makes few points about his life that are frighteningly similair to mine (except that when i fell of a bike as a fourteen year old i never got back on!) regarding "needy" women i really don't know what the solution is to that !

I've known a few russian girls, only as friends but can say that even as a simple friend they are wildly protective of you, especially in a "mothering" type way and i can well imagine that Tom's somewhat right about the wild-eyed jealously.......................but then again , being faithful to your wife outa sheer fear of her might not actually be a bad thing for a lot of us guys! http://datingtalk.info/non-cgi/emoticons/cool.gif

If you live rural chris why not find a girl from russia from a rural area? theres plenty of them bringing a girl from a big giant city in russia might just be a disaster waiting to happen

and corneos right ! right now i'm totally independent, but in a couple of months i'll be in a small town in russia and probably as "needy" as hell! thats only normal.

but the girls of russia need not fear the advances of a drunken englishman! Toms put me off http://datingtalk.info/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif

L

[Tom]

I thought I should clarify my view of Russian women. I have posted it before, but I will post it again.
First off, these are generalizations. They certainly cannot be applied to any one individual...everyone is different. But different cultures WILL cause certain human characteristics to be more pronounced in the aggregate. Also my 'sample' is a mere 3 or 4 women. Hardly large enough to come to any sound scientific conclusions! http://datingtalk.info/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif

My view is that Russian women seem to be more 'feminine' than your typical American chick. But what you must realize is that means both the good AND the bad. You know the old saying "you can't live with them and you can't live without them!" If it is true for American chicks, it seems to be doubly true for Russian chicks!
They seem more adept at making you feel good...like a real man...when they want to. But they are also far more adept at tearing you down and feeling like shit..when they want to. And they are not at all afraid you use their power!! http://datingtalk.info/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif
I think that a potential problem is this: There are a bunch of guys out there who are always complaining about (insert your nationality here) women. They somehow think Russian women will be different. Well women are women! And Russian women are more of the same! If someone already has problems with women, their problems may be even worse with a Russian girl.
On the other hand, if you really do like women, and their difficult nature is not a problem for you, then you'll LOVE Russian women!!!
End of gross generalizations.

Tom

[liam]

Your 100% right Tom, girls are girls what-ever there cultural background http://datingtalk.info/non-cgi/emoticons/sad.gif none of them like playing *x-box* http://datingtalk.info/non-cgi/emoticons/sad.gif and they all know how to get exactly what they want http://datingtalk.info/non-cgi/emoticons/sad.gif

as my good friend often philosophises "if it was'nt for a sex drive.......we'd throw stones at them" http://datingtalk.info/non-cgi/emoticons/wow.gif

LOL

L

[liam]

http://datingtalk.info/non-cgi/emoticons/wow.gif oooooooooooooooopsy http://datingtalk.info/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif anyone with any even mild feminist principles is gonna be way offended by that last post of mine http://datingtalk.info/non-cgi/emoticons/mad.gif

sorry


L http://datingtalk.info/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif

[alittleoff]

Can you like lease a wife for like a year or two ? At the end of the lease if things arent working out just turn em in off lease ? I am seriously joking here !, I have pretty much decided I will try once more and if that dosent work A)re-marry one of my exes (I know what Im in for) B) Stay single and dae for the rest of my life.

I did want to clarify a little, needy wasnt the word I was looking for the exact word escapes me at the moment.I understand a woman from another county will need support and I am lucky to have a family that would be helpfull, lets face it women like to do things that make guys cringe, one of my cousins first words (no joke, SHOPPING) , I guess what I mean is are russian women , how should I say this, are they content being themselves ? My 1st wife was one of those chamelons , she became whatever surronded her. My second was and is always stiving to be something shes not. I guess maybe this is just human nature though.

The point about the motorcycles was only half spending the time doing it, both my marriages suffered because of the percevied finacial impact, I spend a lot of money on it , on the order of 10-15k a year my income is in the 60's so it is a large percentage. What my first wife never understood, and it took a long time for my second to understand is not only is it fun, but its profitable. +5-10k/year depending on my racing successes, BUT all they see is how much money I am spending "on myself" when they feel it would be better spent on them.

Maybe I am looking for something that dosent exist, a RATIONAL woman, my thoughts on Russian women were they have been through a lot more in life, and perhaps, just perhaps they are more reasonable and analythical in decision making , let me know if you follow what I am trying to say : )

Chris

"Why can a woman not be more like a man?"

['arry 'iggins (Harry Higgins) in 'My Fair Lady']


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[Tom]

Chris,
I understand exactly what you're saying.
The best I can tell, Russian women are the same. Let's just call it a 'woman's rationality'!!! You gotta put up with the bad to get some of the good!! http://datingtalk.info/non-cgi/emoticons/wow.gif http://datingtalk.info/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif http://datingtalk.info/non-cgi/emoticons/laugh.gif