Elena Dvoeglazova-Scam Artist

[badboy3]

I want to tell everyone about one of the most horrible human beings ever to grace the planet. She was represented on this web-site (with id# 52824) and I made contact with her. She was listed as being from Brest, Belarus and was very beautiful. Moreover, she seemed very authentic, well-grounded, and did not at any point ask for money. Usually, the stories that I have heard about scammers indicate that they would be very persuasive, but would eventually come up with a sob story and ask for money. It would be a frustrating awakening for the man involved, but no damage would be done if he simply stops communication with the scammer. In my case, I communicated with Elena for over three months, felt I could trust her, and we agreed that I should come to Brest to meet her. Strangely, when I informed Elena of my arrangements that I had set up to come (and could not back out of at this point), she stopped responding to my e-mails. After I had reached Brest, I e-mailed her two times more. Finally, I asked her in an e-mail if she had met another man or was just joking with me. She actually responded and stated out of nowhere that she belives that American men use Russian women and leave never to return (of course, she never mentioned this when I was communicating with her before I came to Belarus; this also did not prevent her from posting a profile on this site!) and said that she would not meet me unless I sent two hundred dollars to her account. I did not do this.
This is far more of a dangerous and cynical situation in that the scammer waits until the person comes to her country before the other shoe drops and she asks for money (she gave me a fictitious address,as well). This woman is truly mean-spirited and evil to do this to me. She obviously hates Americans and will do anything to meet her own hateful, greedy needs.
Advice from me-avoid this woman. She will seem like the most commited and honest woman until you come to see her. One more word of advice-Brest is a nice little town, but you should not try to conact women from there; it seems like the town is not quite as bad a place to live as other former Soviet cities. Not too many people speak English there either. Save yourself the trouble and avoid this city.
I wish you all luck in your search for happiness that I could not find.

[mary]

Lesson 1. Base Russian. Study sound "

[badboy3]

I only want to clarify a few things. First, I can speak basic Russian (though with my lack of conversational practice, my oral comprehension is not very good). I was able to figure pretty well what kind of business I was looking at when I was walking the streets. Secondly, when I said to avoid Brest earlier, that is not what I truly feel. Brest is a very interesting city with good people. My main points are this: 1)You should not go unless you have a very good grasp of the Russian language, 2)With the smaller pool of women to choose from and the fact that the way of life appears to be pretty good for the residents who live there, it may not be the ideal place for a foreigner to find a life-mate. You may have better odds in a larger, more cosmopolitan town. I do not have a problem with this town.
The main thing we should focus on is preventing Elena (or whoever is writing these e-mails) from playing their game any longer. I do not want another man to make the same mistake that I made.

[mary]

That's great that you visited Brest. I know one girl - she visited Poland to meet one man, but he didn't come meeting her. Probably he was a scammer, or a liar, or someone else. Every of us can be cheated on this or another way. Life is life. Mu x-husband cheated on me when we were married. What else ? My friends(girls) always cheat. There are no cases when you are sure that everything will be alright. You must be strong and rely only on yourself http://datingtalk.info/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif
And we make mistakes for all our life http://datingtalk.info/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

[Randy]

http://datingtalk.info/non-cgi/emoticons/sad.gif Hi Badboy, I am sorry to hear of your bad luck.
I am thankfull that you gave this warning about this lady.
I would not want to see this happen to other honest people.

We have to stick together and help one another.I just hope this has not ruined looking for a FSUW for you.

I wish you better luck with the next lady.

[QUOTE]( mary)(Posted on May 04 2004,13:55)You must be strong and rely only on yourself

I disagree with this Mary,I thought the reason we were apart of this forum was to help and support one another,no matter if something good or bad happens to us.

Randy

[mary]

Some time...few years ago I sugested to support Thunderdome. He refused . He didn't want stick in me http://datingtalk.info/non-cgi/emoticons/sad.gif

[badboy3]

I know that I am probably rehashing an old story, but who is Thunderdome (I am not on this forum very much)? I do agree with the earlier post in that our point of being on this forum is to warn each other of scam artists or give advice. I know that things don't always work out and that I have to take care of myself. I've always done that for myself and I have been doing that now. But, that really is not my point in my message about Elena. Elena is so utterly hateful and greedy that she will stop at nothing to get what she wants. Her e-mail is len77@pochta.ru; if you have been writing at all to this e-mail, please check yourself.
Mary, I don't know you or your situation, but you seem to still be affected by your past experiences with the men in your life. If you were treated badly, I do have compassion for you having to deal with this. I have never been divorced or had to deal with that type of situation. If someone takes a marriage vow or makes promises, they should back them up with action. However, it seems like you may be somewhat condoning what Elena did to me and that is not acceptable. Remember, I had the right intentions when I went to meet her (I backed up my words by doing this) and I wish to just lead a normal life by being married and having a family (as opposed to a fling). If she wanted money from me so badly, she should have put her cards on the table before I came to see her. It would have saved me a lot of time, money, and disappointment.
Mary, one more thing. Though I am not as trusting of the people on these sites, I have not given up on the women of the FSU. I still love the people and cultures of these countries. I have learned from my experience, but I don't hate all people in these countries because of it. I hope that you can say the same thing about yourself in regards to men, because it is hard to tell where you stand. http://datingtalk.info/non-cgi/emoticons/rock.gif

[Skooter]

Mary wants to demonstrate her ability in English and bore us all to death.

You can write a caustic reply Mary but your purile comments here have killed the board.

You are so clever, why not set up your own board and take the other idiots there with you where you can tell each other jokes until your hearts are content.

I think Freepersonals is very good, I met my Fiance thru it, I don't know what this relevance this forum has to it at all, particularly you and some other persons that post her ( by the way that does not include serious posters)

Mary, get a life or a man or something, maybe you and JA are made for each other.

[Randy]

Very well put Badboy.

[Randy]

Scooter,congrats on finding a Fiance. I hope every thing works out and I wish you the best of luck.
I hope you will keep us posted on your progress,some of the more serious people are truely interested in how things work out.

Randy

[MartinUK]

Skooter,
She's a lesbian!

[badboy3]

Engaged? Congratulations Skooter! It is good to know that this web site does have advertisements posted by people who have good intentions!
Going off topic, are there any web-sites (or services) that do background checks on women from the FSU? If I go over there again for this purpose, I want to know everything about who I am dealing with (and not simply be trusting empty words).

[MartinUK]

Badboy,
Corruption thus dishonesty is widespread in certain quarters of FSU, you could pay $$$ for a background check but how do you know it has really been done and you haven't been scammed?
Before parting with any money you should learn as much about the lady as possible, her family name and her home address in particular.
Then with the aid of an internet search engine do some searches, let us say her name is Elena Bloggs from Penza and she lives at 123 Sovetskaya Str. You should search for the following:

1. Elena Bloggs
2. Elena Penza
3. Penza Scam
4. Bloggs Scam
5. 123 Sovetskaya Str.
6. Lena Bloggs
7. Lena Penza

Such searches should reveal if she is a scammer or indeed how many websites she may appear on. I recently did such a search for a lady on behalf of a friend, it revealed her on something like 15+ different websites before I got bored but it proved a point, the chances of her being a one man woman were about zero.

If after such a free of charge background check you are still not satisfied then think about spending money.

Hope this helps
Martin

[Randy]

Badboy,
To add a little to Martins post,you could also try doing a search for " Russian blacklist" or "scammers" or " Russian womens blacklist" and so on.It will bring up sites that list knowen scammers and people that have posted scams of ladies.

Hope this helps,I know I have found some of the women that I was writing to on some of these scam sites.

Best of luck Badboy,

Randy

[MartinUK]

Randy,
If you search for her name, city etc. the search will take you to the blacklists if she is there. If you search for city name & scam it will reveal all blacklisted scammers from that city should she have changed her identity.

[mary]

[badboy3]

Thanks for your help Randy and Martin!

[badboy3]

Update! We have a return of Elena on the freepersonals.ru web-site! However, there is a new picture and name to go with the scammer (this is not Elena's picture). How can I tell that this is Elena without even writing to her? The tip-offs were 1)a woman lying on the beach in a bikini (just like most of Elena's pictures that I have, 2) similar physical description and she is from Belarus(like Elena, the woman was supposedly going about 5'10 and under 110 lbs., though she lives in Polotsk), 3) the best part: the description was exactly what Elena put in her's! Word for word.
Evidently there is some sort of operation going on over there (it may even have other countries involved), so be very careful. For now, the Ad # is 138810 and her name is Irina. For your own good, do not write this woman or her other scammer friends. Or maybe, better yet, write her, get her e-mail and post it here. Do not fall for her under any circumstances (as sincere as her words may sound, they are empty).