Which country?

[Bored]

Basically I guess this post mainly applies to guys from the EU. But considering that the EU has now expanded to include Estonia, Lativa and Lithuania (among others), why go through the hassle of the high costs and visa hassle of trying to date girls from Russia, Ukraine, Belarus etc. As far as I can tell, the girls from the new Baltic countries have an identical culture to other girls from the FSU, so they will provide the same kind of quality relationship, and there are many of these girls to choose from. They obviously can move / study easier and more cheaply to other countries such as the UK. So why do guys always want to go for girls who are way more hassle? I am just curious?

[MartinUK]

Bored,
Who can say where your ideal partner may be? I don't particularly seek a lady from Russia, Ukraine etc., I just seek a lady who has the right qualities as same things in common as myself.
With regards to the Baltic States, I learnt many years ago they many had a semi-westernised mentality. These countries never did like Russia so upon the break-up of the USSR they leant to the west rather than east. Yes, many Russians etc. have grown-up in these countries thus hold Baltic passports but there may lie the problem, it's not their nationality, it's their mentality!
This is similar to many guys saying to avoid city girls, again, a more westernised mentality.
If and when I meet my ideal lady do you think I really care about the GBP260 visa or the interview and paperwork required, that's a very small inconvenience to accommodate to find true happiness and a sincere lady.

[Bored]

Hi Martin,

It is interesting to read your view. Whilst I can understand your desire to be willing to spread your net far and wide to find your true love, I think for many guys the practicalities are very important. From my experience, Baltic women are just as warm and are not discernibly different to any other FSU women. In addition to this my experience has shown me that the single biggest factor in the success of a relationship and the ability to make it work is to have as few hurdles as possible.

The main reason why when you are younger you don

[MartinUK]

my experience has shown me that the single biggest factor in the success of a relationship and the ability to make it work is to have as few hurdles as possible.

Bored,
I see where yoou're coming from but the more hurdles that are overcome may make two people stronger together.
If you date a lady from The Baltics she may ask why you chose her country, if you're honest you'll tell her because you found it convenient.
If I date a lady from Ukraine and she asks me why I don't look for a lady in The Baltics I can be honest with her, she should see I'm prepared to go the extra mile and she should realise I'm not just taking the easiest option.
I know which of the two ladies should be more 'bowled over' by the actions the guy is prepared to take to meet the right lady, in theory anyway!

You're right about long-distance relationships and too many guys fall for the trap whereas after only a few days with the lady they agree to live together in his country, I've been there myself previously so I know this 'trap' all too well!

Some of these relationships will work but more will fail. It's a feeling like the two of you are shoved into a microwave oven and need to make a decision before the 'pinger' sounds!

My relationship is 5 months old now, do I miss her? Yes. But, we speak on the phone a couple of times each week (it's dirt cheap via www.telediscount.co.uk ) and now it's less than 4 weeks until I'm back in Ukraine again but Im really enjoying the relationship and I prefer this than the microwave method.

I don't really see too much of an advantage going for a Baltic lady, OK she'll have EU rights (in some countries) but if my lady and I so choose, she can come here any time she likes. All we need to do is apply and pay for a tourist visa, I advise that I will support her, she attends an interview and hey presto! It's hardly rocket science!

[ramjet555]

MartinUK, Man, you have been on these forums a long time! I got married in February in Russia and if I even mention another country like Ukraine I get the "wat you interested in Ukraine?", "I do not like this", bottom line, never talk about any other Country except the one she lives in and your own or she may start thinking you are off to visit some lady there.

Its a real breeze for guys in UK to bring their ladies in compared to other countries. I'm in Canada and here we must marry them first and immigrate second, the USA its an engagement first and US try out together for 90 days , Australia its engagement first, NZ it can be either.

Bottom line is make sure you KNOW your process inside out BEFORE you start meeting your first lady. Make sure you have a system for proof of all phone calls, make sure you regularly update the immigration documents and understand almost every country's immigration rules change daily! Yes, daily, check those forms, they change so often it can be a nightmare.

Expect the Rules in Russia or elsewhere to change overnight before you arrive... Plan for the worst case and have back up plans.

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[MartinUK]

Ramjet,
An interesting point of view, I can talk openly about Ukraine at the moment because that is where my lady is from, in fact I'm off there again at the end of this week.

That said, I can talk with her openly about such countries as Russia, Uzbekistan and indeed another city in her country, Kiev.

Such is our understanding between us and so good is her English we talk very openly, she knows I've had previous girlfriends from these places and we talk openly about practically anything.

And, she knows there is only one reason I would ever divorce her, and that's if Kylie Minogue made herself available!

[eeyore]

"...
And, she knows there is only one reason I would ever divorce her, and that's if Kylie Minogue made herself available!
..."

That is indeed a weird statement.

But I guess we are all different!
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