Confirmation

[12345]

I read the following article on Monday, and would like someone who is living in Russia to confirm that it is true or not.

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Russians who wed foreigners should be exiled?
Mon Jun 6, 2005 9:24 AM ET

MOSCOW (Reuters) - Russians who marry foreigners could be exiled and
stripped of their citizenship under a bill being drafted by a group of
members of parliament, a deputy said Sunday.

One of the bill's authors, Duma deputy Nikolai Kuryanovich, a member of
the ultra-nationalist LDPR party, admitted parliament was unlikely to
approve the measures but insisted they were necessary. "Our women, the
most beautiful and best in the world, are going abroad. By doing this,
they are wasting the most valuable thing we have -- the gene pool of
our nation," Kuryanovich told Ekho Moskvy radio.

But while condemning women for going abroad, he also said he did not
want people bringing foreign spouses to Russia either.

Newly-weds would be forced to go and live in the country where their
spouses were from, Kuryanovich said, to protect Russia from "an
invasion of alien elements."

"Adapting to life in Russia ... foreigners impose their own rules,
which are unacceptable to us," he said.
Since the fall of Communism, the numbers of Russians marrying
foreigners has increased significantly and a poll cited in respected
magazine Ogonyok last year said one in three 17 to 25-year-old girls
wanted to marry a foreigner and live abroad.

The LDPR party's leader, Vladimir Zhirinovsky, is known as a maverick
who enjoys stirring up controversy and has traded punches with fellow
deputies during parliamentary sittings.

[orangeleo]

I am not russian, nor in russia, but I recognize an idiot politician trying to make headlines when i see one.

any dumbshit can draft legislation and hold a press conference. that doesn't mean that it will go anywhere other than the trash can.

[alex33]

Vladimir Volfovich Zhirinovsky is a controversial Russian politician, and leader of the Liberal Democratic Party of Russia (which has very little in common with what Westerners call liberalism).

He was a long-time KGB operative, of a Jewish father, and speaks fluent Turkish.

He advocates, inter alia, the re-incorporation of the former Soviet republics and Alaska through the use of military force, as well as invading and occupying Iran. He has also praised Adolf Hitler's rule and encouraged the use of nuclear weapons against possible adversaries. He has been known to make public anti-Semitic remarks, despite his Jewish origins.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vladimir_Zhirinovsky

[alex33]

It's not a new idea by his party, found this article from 2001.

Zhirinovsky

[alex33]

personally I think the way to keep more Russian women at home is to make them happy http://datingtalk.info/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

and not by force http://datingtalk.info/non-cgi/emoticons/mad.gif

[12345]

Thank you for your answers, folks. It helps to explain the reason that my friend cautiously advised me to be careful on my trip to Russia. I amaze that such politicians are allowed to hold political positions in today.

[Arie]

Our friend Zhirinovsky has some more lightbulb moments, a small collection of his ideas:

"Zhirinovsky praised Adolf Hitler's ideology of National-Socialism in an Izvestia article. One of his books, "The Last Thrust to The South", advocates military aggression against Russia's Southern neighbors as a way of achieving political stability in the region. Vladimir Zhirinovsky made headlines by threatening to take Alaska back from the United States, nuke Japan, and flood Germany with radioactive waste."

http://www.cs.indiana.edu/~dmiguse/Russian/vzbio.html

Luckily his political influence is not that big.

P.S. Sorry Alex, you already posted his bio, wasn't looking carefully http://datingtalk.info/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

[alex33]

P.S. Sorry Alex, you already posted his bio, wasn't looking carefully http://datingtalk.info/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif
I won't forgive you. I shall ask Zhirinovsky to punish all Ajax Amsterdam fans http://datingtalk.info/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif

[orangeleo]

i would not worry about traveling in russia at all. my wife lived in severodvinsk which is on the white sea. it is also home to a submarine base and is officially off limits to foreigners.

i have been there twice and have passed through the check point coming into the city a half dozen times, openly walked the streets and dined in many restaurants. not so much as a blink from anyone. i have even posed in front of the statue of comrade lenin in the town square http://datingtalk.info/non-cgi/emoticons/cool.gif

the bureaucrats will look the other way if you give them a chance. when i had my passport validated i did do it in Arkhangelsk, a city that i was legally in. but other than that, i had no issues at all.

[alex33]

my wife lived in severodvinsk which is on the white sea. it is also home to a submarine base
did you sing the song "yellow submarine"? http://datingtalk.info/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

tra la la la a yellow submarine, a yellow submarine http://datingtalk.info/non-cgi/emoticons/cool.gif

[orangeleo]

actually, uh...no

julia worked as a translator for the shipyard and she assures me that they are all black....except the ones they sold to the Indian government....those had floral designs and screen doors on the hatches

[Arie]

P.S. Sorry Alex, you already posted his bio, wasn't looking carefully http://datingtalk.info/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif
I won't forgive you. I shall ask Zhirinovsky to punish all Ajax Amsterdam fans http://datingtalk.info/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif
Have mercy please http://datingtalk.info/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif My girlfriend and I broke up after a big fight, so my trust in Russian girls is below 0.

Time for the monastery http://datingtalk.info/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

[Gregory45]

He is the most waco politician in the planet, also received money from Sadam Hussein, always trying to get a headline...
...

[firedancer]

first of all, there was nothing connected with Vladimir Volfovich Zhirinovsky , so boys, you're dreaming about something here http://datingtalk.info/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif
the next thing, it's not a wish to make screaming headliness. it's true. russia has it's own very old traditions and she likes to keep them, it's the only thing why i respect Putin for his almost autocratic control in the country. but somehow i lazy today to write, so i'll end my post in the evening..

[Arie]

first of all, there was nothing connected with Vladimir Volfovich Zhirinovsky , so boys, you're dreaming about something here http://datingtalk.info/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif
Any reason is good enough to remember our beloved tovarish Zhirinovsky. And his party is taking part anyway:

"One of the bill's authors, Duma deputy Nikolai Kuryanovich, a member of the ultra-nationalist LDPR party"

Shouldn't Russia work on changing their traditions, instead of dreaming of the past?

P.S. Good to see you online again. This board was changing into a male country-club http://datingtalk.info/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

[firedancer]

I'm laaaaaaaaaaaaaaazyyyyyyy don't ask anything http://datingtalk.info/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif i haven't finished my post yet!!! http://datingtalk.info/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif

[Arie]

Izvinite pozhaluisto, we're waiting with anticipation.

I've put on Savage Garden in the office to make time pass quicker http://datingtalk.info/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

[firedancer]

i've forgot hat i wanted to say.. sux http://datingtalk.info/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

[Arie]

Yes, before we know it, we'll have false teeth and grey hair http://datingtalk.info/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

[firedancer]

http://datingtalk.info/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif no.. i've just forgot.. like my teacher says "shit happens" http://datingtalk.info/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

[Arie]

First thing your English teacher tought the class? http://datingtalk.info/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

[firedancer]

it was in the third lecture, when one girl send him an e-mail, which in fact had to be sent to me.. it was a bit intimate and funny and about that teacher http://datingtalk.info/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif but he just laughted and said those words http://datingtalk.info/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

[firedancer]

it was teacher of modern political philosophy http://datingtalk.info/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

[Arie]

We learned swearing in Russian during our first week at the university, always handy in Moscow metro. http://datingtalk.info/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

[firedancer]

russian swearing i've learned being 4 years old listening to one russian bard http://datingtalk.info/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

[Arie]

Some people simply have a privileged umbringing. http://datingtalk.info/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

[firedancer]

God's gift http://datingtalk.info/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

[Arie]

Amen, sister Laura-Maria http://datingtalk.info/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

How's your evening, with the... uhm many books in your bed? Any room left? http://datingtalk.info/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

[firedancer]

i'm making a painting.. and i guess i would find some place for you http://datingtalk.info/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif

[Arie]

Great hobby, what did you paint?

[firedancer]

a crying clown http://datingtalk.info/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

[Arie]

Crying with happiness? http://datingtalk.info/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

[firedancer]

no http://datingtalk.info/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif he is sad

[Arie]

A laugh and a tear, you see life like this? http://datingtalk.info/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

[firedancer]

sometimes.. http://datingtalk.info/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

[Arie]

I can see sunlight behind the clowds http://datingtalk.info/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

[firedancer]

and i hate sun http://datingtalk.info/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

[Arie]

After living in Holland for a while, I think you'll appreciate sunshine much more http://datingtalk.info/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif This week will be summerlike, so there's hope.

[firedancer]

no i'm alergic to sun http://datingtalk.info/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

[Arie]

A night-butterfly? http://datingtalk.info/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

[firedancer]

A night-butterfly? http://datingtalk.info/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif
lightning-bug http://datingtalk.info/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif

[Arie]

You come for a second, and then leave for two months? http://datingtalk.info/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

[firedancer]

yes.. http://datingtalk.info/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif should i stay longer?

[Marylin]

[QUOTE= (firedancer @ Sep. 25 2005,19:46)]lightning-bug

[Arie]

yes.. http://datingtalk.info/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif should i stay longer?
Only if you want too, I'm very democratic in spirit. And I tried to follow your good example http://datingtalk.info/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif

[Arie]

several years ago...bulgaria...late late night...warm evening...tasty air...wonderful ppl around...great scenes of a small village nearby...and dozens of cute shimmering lightning-bugs flying here and there...
They weren't UFOs? http://datingtalk.info/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

[Marylin]

[QUOTE= (Arie @ Oct. 13 2005,13:04)]They weren't UFOs?

[Arie]

but now i think i would have agreed to go with them...
You wouldn't miss planet earth - all your family, friends, animals? http://datingtalk.info/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

[Marylin]

You wouldn't miss planet earth - all your family, friends, animals? http://datingtalk.info/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif
have i told you im a masohist? + having depression - great combination isnt it http://datingtalk.info/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif

[Arie]

Depression right now? It happens more often in autumn? Good luck to you, hope you'll feel better soon.

[firedancer]

[QUOTE= (firedancer @ Sep. 26 2005,00:01)]yes.. http://datingtalk.info/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif should i stay longer?
Only if you want too, I'm very democratic in spirit. And I tried to follow your good example

[Arie]

I was already leaving for 2 months... http://datingtalk.info/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

[firedancer]

so don't do it again http://datingtalk.info/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

[Arie]

You had a pleasant and sunny weekend - offline I mean? http://datingtalk.info/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

[firedancer]

You had a pleasant and sunny weekend - offline I mean? http://datingtalk.info/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif
yes i did http://datingtalk.info/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif i was making a pie with apples and was gone to listen to one actor who was reading shakespeare for 3 hours.. amasing thing http://datingtalk.info/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

[Marylin]

yes i did http://datingtalk.info/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif i was making a pie with apples and was gone to listen to one actor who was reading shakespeare for 3 hours.. amasing thing http://datingtalk.info/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif
cool ))) hope to start my "theatre season" as soon as winter begins http://datingtalk.info/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

[Arie]

yes i did http://datingtalk.info/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif i was making a pie with apples and was gone to listen to one actor who was reading shakespeare for 3 hours.. amasing thing http://datingtalk.info/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif
Cool, which play of Shakespeare was it?

[Arie]

cool ))) hope to start my "theatre season" as soon as winter begins http://datingtalk.info/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif
Bolshoi Teatr?

[Marylin]

Bolshoi Teatr?
not sure about bolshoj but maybe
there are many other great theatres in moscow, that we (my family i mean) love and try to go to every year http://datingtalk.info/non-cgi/emoticons/cool.gif

[Arie]

Still much to learn for me. Which theatres do you like?

[Marylin]

Still much to learn for me. Which theatres do you like?
Teatr Satiri, Lenkom, Satirikon, Teatr Operetti, Teatr Vahtangova, MHAT, Teatr Stanislavskogo, Sovremennik http://datingtalk.info/non-cgi/emoticons/cool.gif

[Arie]

Muchos gracias, I'll take this list next time I'll be in Moscow http://datingtalk.info/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

[Marylin]

Muchos gracias, I'll take this list next time I'll be in Moscow http://datingtalk.info/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif
no problem http://datingtalk.info/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

[Arie]

And I'll be glad if I can find only one of those teatres http://datingtalk.info/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif Moscow is so-so big...

[Marylin]

And I'll be glad if I can find only of thos teatres http://datingtalk.info/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif Moscow is so-so big...
you always have the net and if it doesnt help - a russian to tell ya, who i think you have more than one lol
so again no problem hehe

[Arie]

Izvini, chto tak plokho pishu po Angliiskii, ya uzhe pokhozh na drugie uchastniki http://datingtalk.info/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

Ok, I'll ask on the streets to take me to the nearest theatre.

[Marylin]

Ok, I'll ask on the streets to take me to the nearest theatre.
so u yet dont know anymore russians but for me? i did think u do http://datingtalk.info/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

wont be difficult for me at all to explain that to ya, to find the address and even to show the map - how to get there http://datingtalk.info/non-cgi/emoticons/cool.gif

[Arie]

Well, it's limited to Russians in Moscow I guess. Lately I'm on a Russian diet http://datingtalk.info/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

[Marylin]

Well, it's limited to Russians in Moscow I guess.
i beg your pardon?

[Arie]

i beg your pardon?
I meant that for asking the way to a Moscow theatre, only Moskvichi are useful. So the question is whether I know Russians there or not http://datingtalk.info/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

[Marylin]

I meant that for asking the way to a Moscow theatre, only Moskvichi are useful. So the question is whether I kno Russians there or not http://datingtalk.info/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif
ahh got it now, thanks http://datingtalk.info/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

[firedancer]

yes i did http://datingtalk.info/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif i was making a pie with apples and was gone to listen to one actor who was reading shakespeare for 3 hours.. amasing thing http://datingtalk.info/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif
cool ))) hope to start my "theatre season" as soon as winter begins http://datingtalk.info/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif
my theatre season is in autumn.. so it's almost going to an end.. http://datingtalk.info/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif but it was good... how i love autumn.. http://datingtalk.info/non-cgi/emoticons/cool.gif

[firedancer]

yes i did http://datingtalk.info/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif i was making a pie with apples and was gone to listen to one actor who was reading shakespeare for 3 hours.. amasing thing http://datingtalk.info/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif
Cool, which play of Shakespeare was it?
it was not a play, he was reading sonnets

[Arie]

Such a pity I didn't hear it, they're great:

"Shall I compare thee to a summer's day?
Thou art more lovely and more temperate.
Rough winds do shake the darling buds of May,
And summer's lease hath all too short a date..."

[firedancer]

"Sometime too hot the eye of heaven shines,
And often is his gold complexion dimmed,
And every fair from fair sometime declines,
By chance, or nature's changing course untrimmed:
But thy eternal summer shall not fade,
Nor lose possession of that fair thou ow'st,
Nor shall death brag thou wander'st in his shade,
When in eternal lines to time thou grow'st,
So long as men can breathe, or eyes can see,
So long lives this, and this gives life to thee."

[sabrina]

My name is Sabrina and I'm new to this site.

[Arie]

Hello Sabrina, welcome on this site. It has been pretty quiet here, but there's always hope for more active participants :-)