are you sure ?

[katya]

Men. You want to marry on Russian. But are you understanding , that Russian woman will be Russian , ever if she will live in another country . She cannot be changing. Can you submit with it ? She will try to help all, if she will meet dog , which haven

[Jon]

Katya,

You wrote:

"...that Russian woman will be Russian , ever if she will live in another country"

I do believe this also holds true for any woman or man who enters another country. The statement may be more true of a Russian woman's heart and soul...her traditional values and culture.

I wouldn't ever want the woman I met and married to change. Maybe it was this type of woman that attracts men from America. Yet there are also many women in America who have the same personalities as what you described. I don't think American women (AW) are that much different when it comes to giving and caring about other people.

I've been fortunate to meet and marry a nice girl from America once. She was very caring and concerned at one time, but people change. After many years of marriage we became strangers living in the same house. I may be at fault for some of our problems, but it doesn't matter because "we" both changed at some point in our lives.'

I will bring my Ukrainian girlfriend to Europe or America someday. I will not ask her to change, nor will I change. We are two distinct people and that is what makes us love and care about each other. Granted she makes different dishes than I am used to, but in the same token, I also make dishes that she may not have had in the past.

I will cook, clean the apartment (or house), wash my clothes, go to work and be the same man I was before her arrival. I am this same person twenty years ago and won't change. I don't expect she will change either.

Well this is a long post and I must return to work now. See it's Sunday and I must work because sometimes it makes me feel good and I enjoy working. I won't change either...well maybe a little, so she will also change a little...don't you agree?

Jon

[Serge]

</span>[QUOTE= (katya @ Nov. 24 2002,09:56)]Men.

[Tom]

Katya,
It is a commonly held axiom, that you cannot enter a relationship expecting to change the other person.

[Jon]

Tom,

" But I do not agree that a person (Russian or otherwise) will never change. The important thing to know is; One person cannot CONTROL how the other person will change."

This is so true...and sadly, it is probably much quicker when you marry a woman from another country...because it is easier for them to grow (or out-grow) the relationship much faster than a man.

Jon

[liam]

G'day everyone,

yeah thats certainly an interesting question. I can only really state what i know about myself being an 'englishman' living in 'the land of the long white cloud', in a lot of ways nz is very similiar to back home, predominately anglo-saxon, white western culture but once you delve beneath the surface of what i am as a person, my beliefs, ideals and norms its soon obvious that i am fundamentally different. I've been here 6 years, but in certain repects my friends find me a little different. eg, people here eat real healthy, muesli for breakfast etc, whereas i'm the atypical english, bacon,eggs, fried bread sorta-guy; a can't find anything funny about nz brand comedy but show me an episode of monty python and i'm in stitches etc etc. These are only tiny differences but they make a difference. But to me thats what makes the world heaps more fun, nothing predictable, nothing obvious. Besides if i wanted someone just like me, i'd stay single, lock myself away, buy a stack of pornos's, paint the nails on my left hand red and 'go for it' (come on jon, admit it, you've tried it http://datingtalk.info/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif )
I'd never turn my back on who i am as a person and if my 'partner' did she probably would'nt be the girl for me.

cheers liam

ps katya, find me a man who says a girlfriend has never tried to change him and i'll show you a man who's either a liar or a virgin http://datingtalk.info/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif lol http://datingtalk.info/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif

[Jon]

Laim,

"paint the nails on my left hand red and go for it..."

Sorry to disappoint you, but I'm a right-hander. Besides, if I knew what my left hand was doing while I slept, I'd probably have to cut it off... http://datingtalk.info/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif

Jon

[liam]

Hi jon,

what the #### do they teach you clean-cut american boys at school???, don't you know the true and tried method of giving yourself a 'dead-arm' on the arm you don't write with and savering the delights of solo pleasure http://datingtalk.info/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif (not that i do it myself--a friends a submariner and has a wealth of info and knowledge on this subject http://datingtalk.info/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif )

cheers,

Jay (not silent Bob)

[katya]

</span><span =''>
Serge

[katya]

</span><span =''>
Tom.
Usually in marriage people changing. But they changing so , that life together will be simplier and better. It is normal.
Sometimes people thinking , that they love each other , but it isn

[katya]

</span>find me a man who says a girlfriend has never tried to change him and i'll show you a man who's either a liar or a virgin http://datingtalk.info/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif lol http://datingtalk.info/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif<span =''>
may be you are right http://datingtalk.info/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif
girls sometimes trying to do her man better , but usually it isn't helping http://datingtalk.info/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif I think , you know it too http://datingtalk.info/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif
but , it is one , if you live in one town , and another , if she will come in your country especially for you , and you telling * girl , be changing *.
it is hard and without it. She need in studying launguage , traditions ... all is new!
and she afraid. and if husband in this moments telling , that she isn't that he want to see - great....
and what to do ?

[liam]

Hi Katya,

yeah it would be a mighty tricky problem, all i really know from personal experience is that i know when i have tried to fundamentally change myself, who i am as a person my beliefs, values etc that its possible to convince yorself that for the sake off another that you should and must change. But deep down, somewhere in your mind and body a big fight evolves and starts to consume you and one day they'll be a big panic in your head (who am i???), i think thats when divorce happens. The trick i guess is to find that 'ideal person" who'll accept you for what you are, thats the major difficulty. As for being a russian, englishman,american, whatever in a new country, its way cool.

as the great man Popeye said, "i am what i am"

cheers, liam (this time not Jay) http://datingtalk.info/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

[katya]

</span><span =''>
It musn't be so , that anybody want to cange you so much , that you dreaming to lose this man . It isn't normal!
and it isn't love.
clever people simply going from tereble situations , and wise people not going on such situation http://datingtalk.info/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif
all of us are only clever http://datingtalk.info/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

[liam]

Hi katya,

yeah i left that sorta situation, i must be clever, yipeeeeeeee!! http://datingtalk.info/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

liam http://datingtalk.info/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

[katya]

</span><span =''>
I aam agree with you http://datingtalk.info/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

[liam]

hi katya,

there is a saying, i don't know who by, "great minds think alike"

http://datingtalk.info/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif http://datingtalk.info/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif http://datingtalk.info/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

liam (smarter than jay by only a little though)

[katya]

</span><span =''>
and we have * stuped have equel ideas * http://datingtalk.info/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif
http://datingtalk.info/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

[Jon]

</span>[QUOTE= (liam @ Nov. 24 2002,23:13)]Hi jon,

what the #### do they teach you clean-cut american boys at school???, don't you know the true and tried method of giving yourself a 'dead-arm' on the arm you don't write with and savering the delights of solo pleasure http://datingtalk.info/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

[liam]

hi jon,

i simply cannot believe that an englishman would pass up a threesome with 2 dutch babes, http://datingtalk.info/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif come on brother, tell the truth http://datingtalk.info/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif

mind you, if you have a girlfriend its ok, but still mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm http://datingtalk.info/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

andy

[liam]

Hey!!!!!!!!

who's andy?http://datingtalk.info/non-cgi/emoticons/rock.gif?http://datingtalk.info/non-cgi/emoticons/rock.gif?http://datingtalk.info/non-cgi/emoticons/rock.gif

liam

[Jon]

</span>hi jon,

i simply cannot believe that an englishman would pass up a threesome with 2 dutch babes, http://datingtalk.info/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif come on brother, tell the truth http://datingtalk.info/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif

mind you, if you have a girlfriend its ok, but still mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm http://datingtalk.info/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

andy<span =''>
Nice thing about dual citizenship...born in England and raised in the U.S.

May be heading back to the U.K. in a couple of months. I was thinking of going back to Manchester...

About the Dutch babes...yeah, had to take a rain check. Would have if I hadn't already found the next ms...have a hard time with the idea of fricking around on her because then she could do the same...have to believe in fair play.

Bye,

Actually my family is quite Scottish and Irish. Something to do with McCarthy and Rhodes...Inman, and Campbell.

Jon

[liam]

Hi jon,

yeah i knew there was more to it. So you know manchester???, i'm from belle vue, do you know it?http://datingtalk.info/non-cgi/emoticons/rock.gif??, if you do, don't go telling everyone i'm obviously poor, white trash. lol

liam http://datingtalk.info/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

[katya]

</span><span =''>
Liam.. there is part of true in your words ...
especially if look on that he write.....

[Jon]

</span>Hi jon,

yeah i knew there was more to it. So you know manchester???, i'm from belle vue, do you know it?http://datingtalk.info/non-cgi/emoticons/rock.gif??, if you do, don't go telling everyone i'm obviously poor, white trash. lol

liam http://datingtalk.info/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif<span =''>
Liam..

PWT? I lived in Alamba and the Ozarks for a while in my bib-overalls. Stayed a few nights in shelters across New Mexico. Spent time in the swamps of Lousiana. Never did I believe that my up-bringing was PWT.

Be proud of your heritage. I am!!! -- gives me something to write about.

Jon

[Tom]

</span></span>[QUOTE= (Tom @ Nov. 24 2002,17:16)]<span =''>
Tom.
Usually in marriage people changing.

[Tom]

</span></span>[QUOTE= (liam @ Nov. 25 2002,01:23)]Hi jon,

yeah i knew there was more to it. So you know manchester???, i'm from belle vue, do you know it?http://datingtalk.info/non-cgi/emoticons/rock.gif??, if you do, don't go telling everyone i'm obviously poor, white trash. lol

liam http://datingtalk.info/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif<span =''>
Liam..

PWT?

[Serge]

</span>[quote=Serge,Nov. 24 2002,13:29]
Serge

[Xutesute]

Hi Katya,

When it dawned on me to look to the FSU for a potential girlfriend/wife it all seemed very romantic (maybe I've seen too many James Bond movies) getting exposed to a different culture and possibly a different way of looking at life.

But I've heard many horror stories of women that were brought to America only to leave the man and take much of what he had before he met her.

I can find that kind of woman easy enough on my own turf without going through all the time and expense of getting to know someone 6000 miles away all the while weeding out the scammers.

So I'm not so keen on it anymore.

[katya]

</span><span =''>
hi .
I was hear a lot of bad things about foreign man too http://datingtalk.info/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif
but what to do ?
I think , that we must looking weself , and thinking weself , what is true , and what isn't.
And I am sure , that to meet love in Internet - it is possible. http://datingtalk.info/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif
and real love .

[liam]

G'day craig,

yeah man, thats a full on horror story (thanks for the link). I guess though in a way he was lucky that it happened in his home enviornment, at least he was in his own country. I fully dread what could happen if you found yourself trapped in a foreign country though. At the end of the day it must be more of a risk for the russian girl coming to a different country, especially if she is also relying upon her 'partners' money. (no money = no freedom). You only need to have a quick look at some of the "alternative" sites on the net to find some deeply bizzare men with equally dodgy habits. I don't suppose it would be too hard to arrange for a girl to come to your country and have her as some sort of way-out sex slave.
The guy in the story was very hard done by, but the level of hassels he took was intriguing, i seriously doubt that i would accept that sort of behaviour (for me it would be like being at work!!!!), in my private life. But loves a funny thing.............

as the scottish say "never marry for money, you'll borrow it cheaper"

cheers, liam

[Xutesute]

"never marry for money, you'll borrow it cheaper"

Lol liam, I love that.

I've tried to imagine what it would be like for the girl to go to a foreign country. She would have to be very much in love, very adventurous or very desperate.

Criag.

[katya]

</span><span =''>
Yes , she must love man , and she must believe he.
Ordinary Russian girl.

[Tom]

</span>[QUOTE= (Xutesute @ Nov. 25 2002,18:42)]I just found the link to one of those stories.

[Tom]

</span>[QUOTE= (Xutesute @ Nov. 25 2002,18:42)]I just found the link to one of those stories.

[Jon]

</span>[snip]

"But it disturbs me, now, to read that text and see same behavior described."<span =''>
Tom,

One thing you should know about women from the FSU is that some have a terrible temper.

[katya]

</span><span =''>
Hi , Tom http://datingtalk.info/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif
I think , that she was simply thinking , that husband so don

[katya]

terrible temper ? thank you very much , Jon http://datingtalk.info/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif of course , I am understanding , that I am not angel ,

[katya]

</span><span =''>
I was meet a lot of bad men in Internet , but I cannot tell , that men in Canada , England , USA and so on have bad temper. Simply I was meet not best people from this countries http://datingtalk.info/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif
I was meet and very good people too http://datingtalk.info/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif
And , are you agree , that that ,that you can think bad in temper , another man can think wonderful ? http://datingtalk.info/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

[Jon]

</span>[QUOTE= (katya @ Nov. 27 2002,17:07)]terrible temper ? thank you very much , Jon http://datingtalk.info/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif of course , I am understanding , that I am not angel ,

[katya]

</span><span =''>
Jon.. you know only 3 woman !
in my town living 500 000 people , let 1/4 will be woman of nice age. and what , all have one temper ? http://datingtalk.info/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif
really funny http://datingtalk.info/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif you make me smiling http://datingtalk.info/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

[Jon]

</span>[quote=Jon,Nov. 27 2002,18:33]
Jon..

[katya]

</span><span =''>
Ask her !
You will see . http://datingtalk.info/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif
May be , I

[liam]

Hi katya and jon,

Well i can guarantee you would'nt be so worried about the tempers of women in russia if you'd met my mother. A very formidable women by any stretch of the imagination http://datingtalk.info/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif , perhaps thats why i'm searching for a russian girl http://datingtalk.info/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif , ive got the while eodopus complex thing going!!!!!!!!! http://datingtalk.info/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif

cheers liam

[liam]

Hi again, i've never really "known" a girl from russian (least in not the way that the international playboy and womaniser jon does http://datingtalk.info/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif http://datingtalk.info/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif http://datingtalk.info/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif ) but when i was living in turkey i became quite good freinds with 2 'escort' girls, one from Georgia and one from ukraine, all i can say is that despite there hard and grim lives to me they were lovely and sweet, kind and generous. Perhaps people treat you the way you treat them!!!!!!!!!!!!! http://datingtalk.info/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif

[Jon]

</span>Hi katya and jon,

Well i can guarantee you would'nt be so worried about the tempers of women in russia if you'd met my mother. A very formidable women by any stretch of the imagination http://datingtalk.info/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif , perhaps thats why i'm searching for a russian girl http://datingtalk.info/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif , ive got the while eodopus complex thing going!!!!!!!!! http://datingtalk.info/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif

cheers liam<span =''>
Liam,

Don't take this the wrong way, but do I have to meet your mom?

Jon

[Jon]

</span>[quote=Jon,Nov. 27 2002,19:07]
Ask her !
You will see . http://datingtalk.info/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif
May be , I

[liam]

hi jon,

yes, but only if you want to marry me !!!!!!!!!, and don't worry my mum only ever says "poor girl, what are you doing with a man like my son, he's fu#*kin*........................"

liam http://datingtalk.info/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

[Jon]

</span>hi jon,

yes, but only if you want to marry me !!!!!!!!!, and don't worry my mum only ever says "poor girl, what are you doing with a man like my son, he's fu#*kin*........................"

liam http://datingtalk.info/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif<span =''>
Liam,

I don't know? Can you cook? How do you look in a teddy?

Hib

[liam]

Hi jon (last of the famous international playboys), whats your secret man?http://datingtalk.info/non-cgi/emoticons/rock.gif??, i've been trying real hard to write witty, charming, lovely and intelligent posts for nearly 2 months now in the vain hope of attracting a babe like katya, and look what happens?http://datingtalk.info/non-cgi/emoticons/rock.gif, you say russian girls have bad tempers and katya wants to be your 'secret girlfriend"", #### man i need some help.

That was right a month ago, nice guys come last.
http://datingtalk.info/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif http://datingtalk.info/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif http://datingtalk.info/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif

liam

ps got to go out now and mug an old granny!!!!!!!!!, bye

[Jon]

</span>[QUOTE= (liam @ Nov. 27 2002,23:42)]Hi jon (last of the famous international playboys), whats your secret man?http://datingtalk.info/non-cgi/emoticons/rock.gif??, i've been trying real hard to write witty, charming, lovely and intelligent posts for nearly 2 months now in the vain hope of attracting a babe like katya, and look what happens?http://datingtalk.info/non-cgi/emoticons/rock.gif, you say russian girls have bad tempers and katya wants to be your 'secret girlfriend"", #### man i need some help.

That was right a month ago, nice guys come last.

[Vicky]

</span>ive got the while eodopus complex thing going!!!!!!!!! http://datingtalk.info/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif<span =''>
liam,

you made me think hard... we had classes in antique literature at uni - didn't that guy kill his father and marry his mother? You feel like marrying someone like your "formidable mom"? http://datingtalk.info/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

[liam]

Hi Vicky.

yeah its greek mythology, sorry though my therapist says i should'nt talk about it in the open

[Serge]

</span>[QUOTE= (liam @ Nov. 28 2002,02:07)]Hi Vicky.

yeah its greek mythology, sorry though my therapist says i should'nt talk about it in the open

[Vicky]

You should try harder, Serge, if you want to end every string with your name http://datingtalk.info/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif http://datingtalk.info/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif http://datingtalk.info/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif

[katya]

</span><span =''>
Hi , Liam !
Jon telling , that all Russian girls are bad , because he want catch more http://datingtalk.info/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif
and , don't tell so many about your mam http://datingtalk.info/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif or girls will afraid to have such mother-in-law and will go away http://datingtalk.info/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif you better tell , that she is like angel... sometimes http://datingtalk.info/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

[katya]

</span><span =''>
Jon http://datingtalk.info/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif we cannot to know answers to life's mysteries ever with research http://datingtalk.info/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif and it is great , or life will not be interesting http://datingtalk.info/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

[liam]

Hi katya,

my mums actually really really lovely, just sometimes not me!!!!!!.

cheers, liam.

[katya]

</span>Hi katya,

my mums actually really really lovely, just sometimes not me!!!!!!.

cheers, liam.<span =''>
Liam http://datingtalk.info/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif in Russia a lot of young girls worry about , who will their mother in low , and , ( only secret ) if mother your man don

[liam]

G'day Katya http://datingtalk.info/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif , i just can't do anything right can I!!!!!!!!!!, i'm gonna try jon's techniques. So from now on i'm gonna poke fun at russian girls mentality!!!!!. I will simply pick a part of a girls personality and make fun of it, sit back in my comfy chair and awaite all the email marriage proposals from beautiful russian girls http://datingtalk.info/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif http://datingtalk.info/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

cheers, liam

[Vicky]

liam,

after such a thoughtless intention you should be veeeery careful http://datingtalk.info/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif Not afraid Russian girls will start joking so that you'll even never get they do http://datingtalk.info/non-cgi/emoticons/cool.gif

[liam]

G'day,

ok ok katya http://datingtalk.info/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif and vicky, i admit defeat http://datingtalk.info/non-cgi/emoticons/sad.gif , i'm gonna have to find another forum to join in this mighty tricky hunt of mine to find the perfect girl for me. Russian girls are just too damm smart for me, no amount of trickery, manipulation and coercion seems to work and i've exhausted my reserves of charm and witt. If anyone wants to join me i'm of to eskimogirls.com or something...................................

bye bye, liam http://datingtalk.info/non-cgi/emoticons/cool.gif

[katya]

</span><span =''>
stand up!
and what I'll do without you ? to teach Jon , that he isn't right? ;)
better don't go.
http://datingtalk.info/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

[Vicky]

liam,

giving up so fast? http://datingtalk.info/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif

[liam]

yep vicky, the 'fight them on the beaches', 'never surrender" ethos died with Churchill.

liam http://datingtalk.info/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif

[Serge]

</span>yep vicky, the 'fight them on the beaches', 'never surrender" ethos died with Churchill.

liam http://datingtalk.info/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif<span =''>
Hey Liam...I'm with Katya and Tinker Bell. I hope you stick around. You remind me of my old mates who had a "brilliant" sense of humor!
Besides the Eskimo chicks are mine http://datingtalk.info/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

[liam]

g'day serge, well thanks for the vote of confidence!!!!

as a great man once said (liam gallagher) "at the end of the day, i love you all" http://datingtalk.info/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

cheers, silent bob http://datingtalk.info/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

[Serge]

</span>g'day serge, well thanks for the vote of confidence!!!!

as a great man once said (liam gallagher) "at the end of the day, i love you all" http://datingtalk.info/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

cheers, silent bob http://datingtalk.info/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif<span =''>
Awww geeez... http://datingtalk.info/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

[Vicky]

What's Tinker Bell?

[liam]

hi vicky,

i thought you were Tinker Bell http://datingtalk.info/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif , liam

[Vicky]

liam,

that's just a name I never heard of - from some mythology too? http://datingtalk.info/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif
And some friends of mine call me Pixie - that's for sure from Scottish, as I was told, something like little evil fairy http://datingtalk.info/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif

[Serge]

</span>[QUOTE= (Vicky @ Nov. 29 2002,23:14)]liam,

that's just a name I never heard of - from some mythology too? http://datingtalk.info/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif
And some friends of mine call me Pixie - that's for sure from Scottish, as I was told, something like little evil fairy

[liam]

hi vicky, er tinker bell was'nt evil, in a perverted sorta way she was kind supposed to be quite sexy. She was in the fable Peter Pan, in the move with robin williams, tinker bell was played by julia roberts. http://datingtalk.info/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif liam

[Vicky]

See how close I was in my guess http://datingtalk.info/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif
Just that I didn't read Peter Pan in English, only in Russian,and there she had another name of course http://datingtalk.info/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

[liam]

hi vicky,

go straight to the top of the class http://datingtalk.info/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif lol, liam

[Serge]

</span>See how close I was in my guess http://datingtalk.info/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif
Just that I didn't read Peter Pan in English, only in Russian,and there she had another name of course http://datingtalk.info/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif<span =''>
Vicky; What was inker Bells' name in the Russian version? And how come I didn't get any pooch pics? ...lol

[Serge]

</span>What's Tinker Bell?<span =''>
Did you think I would call you something bad?

[Vicky]

Serge,

of course I didn't think that http://datingtalk.info/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif Though right now I'm thinking of changing the avatar, so that further on there won't be any wild guesses, actually right now I'm choosing the other one, so next time there are no bells and no tinkers

[Serge]

</span>[QUOTE= (Vicky @ Nov. 30 2002,03:46)]Serge,

of course I didn't think that http://datingtalk.info/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif Though right now I'm thinking of changing the avatar, so that further on there won't be any wild guesses, actually right now I'm choosing the other one, so next time there are no bells and no tinkers

[Vicky]

Good for you, Serge http://datingtalk.info/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

Hope practical women love you too http://datingtalk.info/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

[katya]

</span>Vicky; What was inker Bells' name in the Russian version?<span =''>
Serge , her mane in Russian story was Din

[katya]

Hey , everybody!
For what we talking about men and women, if all of us so like dogs? http://datingtalk.info/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

[Jon]

</span>[QUOTE= (katya @ Nov. 30 2002,16:27)]Hey , everybody!
For what we talking about men and women,

[liam]

g'day all, well i was just reading todays newspaper and theres a story about a russia border guard on the russian/georgia border, who yesterday while tripping on magic mushrooms shot all his fellow soldiers. http://datingtalk.info/non-cgi/emoticons/sad.gif bizzare!!!!!!. anyway next year when i plan to visit russia i was wanting to go to georgia, i've read quite a few novels and books of poetry based there so my questions is, apart from dodgy border guards is georgia safe for me to go looking around?, maybe katya or vicky can help with my answer,

cheers liam

[Vicky]

</span>[QUOTE= (liam @ Dec. 01 2002,02:22)]g'day all, well i was just reading todays newspaper and theres a story about a russia border guard on the russian/georgia border, who yesterday while tripping on magic mushrooms shot all his fellow soldiers.

[liam]

hi vicky,

thanks for the advice, i'd kinda worked it out myself but it was great to hear advice from someone in the general region. I've followed the problems in chechnya over the last decade or so (there are many sites on the net and the whole counrty seems like a nightmare), and its definately extremely unhealthy to be any where in the vicinity. Its a big shame about georgia, the culture there is quite amazing and i'd always wanted to visit the mtatsminda and st davids church that over-look tbilisi. Oh well, in another life perhaps.

cheers liam

ps. its safe to go to volograd though is'nt it?http://datingtalk.info/non-cgi/emoticons/rock.gif??

[katya]

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Hi , Liam !
For first

[liam]

g'day katya http://datingtalk.info/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif wheres Krim?, i don't think i have ever of of that town http://datingtalk.info/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif liiiiiiiiiiiam http://datingtalk.info/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

[katya]

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Krim isn't town . Town will be Yalta , Sevastopol , Simferopol... you can find it on the sought of the Ukraine. http://datingtalk.info/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif
there is a great palaces , monasteres , and Pushkin and Lermontow was write about this places a lot. http://datingtalk.info/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif
Bahchisaray's fountain - it is there. http://datingtalk.info/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

[Vicky]

Krim is the Crimean peninsula, or the Crimea, south of Russia.

[katya]

</span>[QUOTE= (liam @ Dec. 01 2002,23:44)]g'day katya http://datingtalk.info/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

[liam]

g'day katya http://datingtalk.info/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif , thats a very kind offer!!!!!!!!!!!, thank-you,when i visit, am really interested in visiting volgograd, to see the museum about the battle for stalingrad in ww2 and other historical military sites, any ideas?, also i would like to visit ukraine and especially belarus, is it easy to do.?

thank-you for your help http://datingtalk.info/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif , liam

[liam]

hi again http://datingtalk.info/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif , i forgot, also maybe a quick (very) visit to chernobyl, to see the buildings and ghost towns, also to visit an orphanage and maybe watch a very big footaball game in minsk or kiev, is any of this possible?, thanks again for your help, liam http://datingtalk.info/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

[katya]

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Dear Liam , I am very sorry , but I can help you only on that place , which are in Russia. and at the Ukraine and Byelorussia ... if I'll can I'll help you , but I cnanot promiss. there you will need in another visa.

[liam]

hi katya http://datingtalk.info/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif , thats ok, i can take you on the trip to belarus with me!!!!!!!!! http://datingtalk.info/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif ,the visa is ok cos i can buy one on the internet!!!!! http://datingtalk.info/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif , cheers liam

[katya]

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on football in Byelorussia ? Liam.. better in Georgia