Probable scammer: Kseniya id#235195

[Tom]

To make a long story short:
She contacted me after seeing my profile on another site, I have been emailing her for a couple weeks, but it was obvious from the begining that something just wasn't right. She would answer direct questions that I made to her, but they were always very short answers either at the very beginning or end of an otherwise totally 'out of context' letter. I could never get her to 'engage' in an actual discussion. And in later letters, she would ask questions about matters I had already covered in earlier letters, as if she had never read them. Other than very short answers to my direct questions, the bulk of her letters show no relation to anything I had discussed in my earlier letters.
Then she asked for my phone#, but could not give me hers because hers is 'broken.'
THEN she sent me a letter to my profile on this sight. It was identical to the letter she sent to me on the other sight...basicaly introducing herself and telling me she had liked my profile. As if I hadn't already been emailing her on a daily basis for 2 weeks! Also, her email address on this sight is different from the email address we have been coresponding on through the other sight.
So I copied and pasted my first letter to her at the other email address to this email address...and low and behold, her second letter to me was the exact duplicate of her second letter she had sent from the previous email adress.
I have since found that she is operating under at least 3 different email addresses and has at least 4 different profiles (one is here at Free Russian Personals.)
On the other hand, all of her personal info is consistant, and she has not yet asked for anything.
At first, I thought maybe she was just mass-mailing to get responses and find 'the right guy.' But I really doubt that at this point.
So I will not state flat out that she is a scammer. But I am about 99% sure.
I was going to keep writing just to get to the point of her asking me for money, but I am growing tired of the impersonal letters that she sends...it just takes the fun out of it!!!! :)
So here is her info, and if you see it...beware:
Alias: Ksenia or Kseniya or Ksenylisa
5'10", 135 lbs, brown hair, grey eyes, dentist from Cheboksary, born January 21, 1975
Her email addresses are :
kriakva06@rambler.ru
relaksia@yahoo.com
kilara31@rambler.ru

Well, I didn't make it short after all.
But just use your own best judgment when dealing with this girl.
Scammer probability-very high.
But I am not going to stick around to find out.
Tom

[dogday]

Hey Tom!!! 10 outa 10 for your efforts mate!

cheers! Liam

[masterblaster]

Hi

I also note that her profile has gone AWOL which is the best thing for scammers. Keep them as far away from this poosible - I say!:D

[Tom]

Hey Liam! What's up!
I just received another letter from Kseniya today asking 'have you forgotten me?"
SO I wrote her back...not accusing her of being a scammer, but pointing out the problems that I noted in my original post.
It will be interesting what (if any) her response will be.
Anyway, I have hardly coresponded with any girls from over-seas on the internet. Remember, this one contacted ME.
But this is the first girl that I have communicated with who was probably a scammer.

Anyway Liam, what's going on with you these days? still traveling the world, wreaking havoc as you go?!?:p
I have 2 weeks vacation coming to me, and business is slow...so this may be one of the last good chances I have to go see Europe. I'm not going to go to meet a chick...just to see what that part of the world is like before the whole world turns into DisneyLand!!!!
Well, talk to ya later,
Tom

[Tom]

To summarize,
This girl contacted me and so I wrote her, knowing there was something wrong, but I was curious to see where it was going to go.
Then the same girl, with a different email address, contacted me again from this sight (her profile now removed) wanting to begin correspondence and sending me the exact same letters as from her other email address.
SO I stopped writing her.
1.5 weeks later she sends me a letter asking "Have you forgotten me? " "If I said anyhting wrong let me know" , etc., etc.
So I wrote her back listing all the problems and basically saying that I didn't believe that she was sincere and that I was not interested in corresponding with her any more.
So what do you think happens?
She sends me another letter as though nothing had ever happened!!! And now she is alluding to marriage. This, after I sent her a letter basically calling her a FAKE!
And there is even a line about how she likes my descriptions of my friends. I have not described my friends to her! (but she did ask me to in her last letter before I stopped writing.)
And now she wants my mailing address. What's next, my social security number!
How stupid do guys have to be to fall for this stuff?

Anyway,
Here is my letter to her, and her response to me. Just so that you can see how rediculous this whole thing is:

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Hello Ksenia,
I will try to be concise. The reason I have not written you again is; I do not believe in your sincerity.
Although you answer my direct questions, the rest of your letters contain no relation to anything I have written to you in earlier letters. Sometimes, you ask questions about things that I have already explained earlier…as though you have not read my earlier letters (or do not remember them.)
And then I received another letter from you, using a different email address "Kilara31@rambler.ru." In this new letter, you state that you have seen my profile and want to begin correspondence! Do you not remember that we have already been corresponding for two weeks on email "Kriakva06"? How many different Ksenias, who are dentists, who are born on January 21, 1975 from Cheboksary are there? Is there a whole room full of them?
Or if you are writing many, many men; that is OK. It is your right. It is your right to talk to many men and to find the right one. But you should do a better job of remembering 'who is who.' Or else all the smart men will figure out what is happening, and you will only have the stupid ones left to choose from.
Anyway, I am not angry with you…only disappointed.
Tom
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Hello my good friend Tom. I was very glad to receive again news from you.
It is very interesting to me to find out about your friends. With each yours the
letter I feel interest in you all more and more.
I think, that we should develop our attitudes to more close. I thought that we
should discuss some moments, of how our further acquaintance to you will
develop.
Such question is interesting to me. If the destiny will allow us, to be together
as will react to it your parents and friends.
The most important for me, that your relatives could concerns to me from the
positive side, and were not against our possible union.
Personally I am sure, that I shall have good opinion on your parents and
friends. I think, that my mum will be always agree with my opinion.
I talked to mum about this theme still for a long time. She has told to me, that
is sure that I shall not choose bad, and I shall not be mistaken, building the
destiny.
But nevertheless she has advised me to be accurater with acquaintances in the
Internet.
I am sure, that you the remarkable person and I believe, that we can be happy
together in the future.
But I do not want to hasten too. I think, that we should be fair with each
other, and not doubt of our feelings.
I think, that in construction of relations between the man and the woman there
should be a trust.
I hope, that you trust me, trust my words, my letters.
You should know, that each my word, is true, and I concern to you how I write
about it.
My friend if suddenly the Internet will bring us we can lose touch with each
other.
You can write to me the address and if suddenly something will take place I I
can write to you the letter.
I shall finish on it the letter. At me it is a lot of ideas in a head about you,
about us, but it is difficult for me to express now it in words.
Your letter will bring to me the big pleasure, and I wait for it with
impatience.
Sincerely your good friend KSENIYA.

[dogday]

hey mate!!! so how's europe?, all good?

HAPPY CHRISTMAS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Liam

[bigbubbatexas]

As I have painfully learned, it is ALWAYS best to rely on your instincts. Happily, I have found a delightful, beautiful, and HONEST woman from Ukraine and our relationship is progressing nicely. She never asks me for money and everything she has said has turned out to be 100% truthful. So, keep looking, there ARE good women out there!!!

Dennis

[livewithoutlimits]

So what do you think happens?
She sends me another letter as though nothing had ever happened!!! And now she is alluding to marriage. This, after I sent her a letter basically calling her a FAKE!
And there is even a line about how she likes my descriptions of my friends. I have not described my friends to her!

Dear Tom

Although its a long time since that post was written and probably forgotten I think this is typical scammer behaviour. I have received many letters like that and the reasons behind them are simple: After the initial first 2 letters or so the English speaking scammer usually employs an accomplice to process the hundreds of letters that need to be answered. The accomplice which may be a kid, a relative who spends hours in the local internet cafe receives a small percentage of the takings but must show "productivity". As he does not speak English really, he only scans the letter from the love-stricken western man for words like "scammer" or "money" or "western union money transfer" that require special attention. He then posts a letter from a series he has in his sleeve all pre-written and designed to produce the desired effect in the end i.e. the bamboozling of the stupid foreigner and the transfer of funds for a ticket, visa etc.
You may not believe this but I have seen them in action. I was in Ukraine and the boyfriend of the daughter of the woman I was dating who works in an internet cafe has shown them to me. Kids 12-14 years old working feverishly on their keyboards for a few kopecs. It is a business relatively easy to spot (like you have done in this case). But be on your guard. Like everything else scammers are evolving and soon their tricks will be more sophisticated and difficult to spot. I was also told the following rather amazing story: The ex-girlfriend of this same young man was a pretty blonde scammer. She apparently was scamming some middle aged Americans one of which had actually visited and was paying for her English classes expecting she would be joining him soon. I asked to meet her (for education purposes) but he refused to arrange it.
Altogether I think that scamming is a bit of a sport for them and its our fault (western men's) that appear to be so easily hoodwinked by a pair of sexy long legs, a pretty smile and the promise of love etc.
Regards:eek: :eek: :cool: