New scammer Kseniya..

[Hans]

I 'met' Kseniya via freepersonals.ru, and it seems she is involved in a so called Agency Scam. After she mentioned 'organized meetings for foreign men' in Odessa, and I told her that this would be out of the question, she dropped me like a brick..
This is the URL to her profile:
http://freepersonals.ru/showProfile.da?id=244831
She's cute, and corresponds in a very personal way, but you'll probably end up in some Ukraine 'meat market' getting leached :(

[Arie]

Maybe she just works for such agency?

Such "meat markets" don't have to be bad, just their way of luring new customers isn't nice.

[Hans]

Maybe she just works for such agency?

Such "meat markets" don't have to be bad, just their way of luring new customers isn't nice.

Perhaps. But in my opinion these meetings have only one true purpose,
and that is to bleed men. I have been to many countries, and most of
the time I arranged my own stay when abroad on holiday. When I would
have hired services from agencies; 1. my holiday would last a week in-
stead of a month, and 2. hell, it's fun to haggle your way through :-)
Plus.. I probably 'meet' the same girls anyway.. on streetcorners and in
the entrance of the subway..

[Arie]

It's indeed nice to arrange your own holiday: it's far less expensive, and if you don't meet your true princess, you always had a nice holiday.

The biggest advantage of such markets is that the girls involved are mostly looking for a serious relationship. But for this there's also a "do-it-yourself" solution for this: writing with several girls, see their intentions, and having several dates when you're inside the country.

A Russian girl living in St.-Petersburg told me that in the metro guys often try to pick her up. Russian Metro as Cupid's playground? :D

[Hans]

It's indeed nice to arrange your own holiday: it's far less expensive, and if you don't meet your true princess, you always had a nice holiday.

Well, I don't intend to go on holiday with the prefixed idea to get myself a girlfriend..

The biggest advantage of such markets is that the girls involved are mostly looking for a serious relationship. But for this there's also a "do-it-yourself" solution for this: writing with several girls, see their intentions, and having several dates when you're inside the country.

It seems like a loser deal to me..

A Russian girl living in St.-Petersburg told me that in the metro guys often try to pick her up. Russian Metro as Cupid's playground? :D

That's true for all parts of the world ;-)

[Arie]

Well, I don't intend to go on holiday with the prefixed idea to get myself a girlfriend..
Well, many men do, I think expectations are often too high.

It seems like a loser deal to me..

Je comprend pas - why a loser deal?

[Hans]

Well, I don't intend to go on holiday with the prefixed idea to get myself a girlfriend..
Well, many men do, I think expectations are often too high.

Much to high if you ask me. Are those girs really that different from the girls at home who don't even notice <generally speaking> you? Get a life :p

It seems like a loser deal to me..
Je ne comprend pas - why a loser deal?

Isn't it obvious that such arranged meetings are fake most of the time, and that those girls are getting paid to 'perform'? That's my opinion.

[Arie]

Much to high if you ask me. Are those girs really that different from the girls at home who don't even notice <generally speaking> you? Get a life :p
Well, it's all about the money... Would Donald Trump have the same girls in his life, if he was a hard-working construction worker?

If a Western guy is making 5, 10 or 20 times more money than local men, he's considered "rich". That living costs in America or Europe are much higher too, is often forgotten.

And there's a shortage of men is countries like Russia or Ukraine, so girls have to try harder to find a good man.

Isn't it obvious that such arranged meetings are fake most of the time, and that those girls are getting paid to 'perform'? That's my opinion.
I've never participated in such meetings, but from what I heard and read, the girls aren't actrices, tey're often looking for a new future. Although they seldom realize what a big step migrating is.