Specifics of foreign marriages

[Vicky]

Couple of days ago I watched a program on TV about Finland, just to get to know more about people who are frequent guests to my city (BTW and off-topic - finns are said to come to Russia for vodka, so it's a big question who drink more http://datingtalk.info/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif )
Anyways, the point of the program was marriage, and it was said there that recently Thai wives were in fashion in Finland and now the shift again moved towards Russian wives. Yahoo, we're in fashion again! http://datingtalk.info/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif But it's not what impressed me the most. I always considered Finland to be a pretty civilized country and what I learned from that program - when a finn marries a foreigner it's a matter of fact there, not a surprise or an unusual thing. But. If in 2 years time the finn is not satisfied with his wife in either sense he might just go to some municipal institution, not sure which, and tell them that he doesn't like that woman anymore. The measures taken then are - a woman is simply deported out of the country! As easy as this! This reminds me of the marriage and divorce procedure in Egypt for example, when it's enough to take two administrative officers, they may be even policemen in the street, and write a paper that he takes her as his wife and voila - they are married, the divorce even being simpler than this. Ok, Egypt is Eastern country, but Finland! I was rather shocked because of that attitude towards foreign marriages.

[Tom]

I can give you a general idea of how it works in the US.

[liam]

g'day,

in new zealand its a bit simpler than the usa, the man simply needs to sponser the lady, to do this he has to be full-time employed and have savings of at least 7000NZD (approx 3500usd), the girl can then visit for a maximum of 9 months, during that time if you want to stay together you get married, thats it. A friend of mine last year 'married' a hungarian friend of ours so she could stay, no romance but way cool wedding photos (cos she's a goddess) and an excellent party. There has recently been a few stories in the media though about the nine-month time limit, it seems a few dodgy men have been bringing in thai girls, having them bend of back-wards (and bend in other positions too) trying to impress there husbands-to-be only to be told its all over and off they go back to the slums of asia. The men do it everyyear with a different girl each time (crafty eh!), the immigration minister says theres nothing he can do. cheers liam.
ps tom, what position did you play in rugby ?

[Pierre]

Vicky,

I think that in France this is similar to Finland. If during a period of 2 years following the marriage, you divorce from your foreign husband/wife, he/she cannot optain the french citizenship and must leave the country (but is not deported). This is to avoid what we call "white marriage" when people get married only to obtain the citizenship. This is particularly true with people from Africa who wants to come in France. I remember a report a the TV few month ago about a man who divorced from his russian wife and wanted the courts to send her back to her country. She learned french, found a job, had a children who was at school and speaking french perfectly. All the city where she was living standed up for her, and finally she was able to stay in france and obtain a long stay visa. I personally think that the problem is not the law but more how certain men consider their marriage with a foreign woman.

[Vicky]

Pierre,

last year, if i'm not mistaken, i heard a story, and watched a tv report on that and read in papers as well, about a Russian woman who got married to a Frenchman. I don't remember a name, just that she is an actress. I wonder if we're talking about one and the same story. Anyways, there that woman married the man, went to France, but her husband treated her awfully and she had to divorce him. But French authorities took her husband's side and though she was not deported they refused her to see her child. There were rumours that her ex was beating the child. She turned to court, but what she achieved was that the child was put into orphanage and she again could visit her daughter once a month and there was always someone watching their meetings. She was prohibited to talk to her daughter in Russian, and the girl nearly forgot her own language. There were many more details that made the story appaling, I even heard that president Poutin addressed French authorities to see to the case. Not sure how the story ended though.
At this same time i myself was having an intense communication in writing with a French guy. And when i told him - you know, looks like French authorities won't protect a foreign wife if anything happens, he told me he never heard that story (which i didn't believe actually as president's interference made it a loud one). Anyway, at that time i thought i'm of no importance for a president and i might be totally unprotected in a foreign country, so why risking that much. (BTW the guy disappeared pretty fast after i told him i'm quite reluctant about coming to France http://datingtalk.info/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif )

[Pierre]

Vicky,

I don't think we are talking about the same story. I haven't heard about your story, but what you tell is really terrible !
But please don't make this very sad story to become general, because I don't think that the french justice is like that.

This is a shame that you now are reluctant to come to France, because this is beautiful country to live, and I'm sure you could find the perfect husband here too !

And please, don't tell this story to my girlfriend ... because after we will meet in Moscow, she should come to France for two months, and I wouldn't like you to ruin all my hopes to meet and marry a very nice and kind lady!!

Pierre.

[Vicky]

Pierre,

what's your girlfriend's name and can you give me her e-mail? http://datingtalk.info/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif just kidding.
Besides, this story was so widely discussed here and there were lots of publishing about it, i presume your girl might know about it without my "help" http://datingtalk.info/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

Good luck, Pierre

[Tom]

</span>g'day,

ps tom, what position did you play in rugby ?<span =''>
I played primarily second row, sometimes flanker or 8 man.
I wouldn't say I was the greatest player, but it was fun.

[liam]

g'day tom, thanks for the reply. as for me i tend to go along with the majority of englishmen, spectating not playing!!!!, though i've played a lot of soccer and cricket, boxed for a while in my teens and i've run 7 half-marathons. all thats a decade a go though!!!!!!, does playstation count as sport? http://datingtalk.info/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif ?, liam

[katya]

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By the way , that story with girl wasn